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From: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>
To: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
Cc: Dev Jain <dev.jain@arm.com>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, ryan.roberts@arm.com,
	willy@infradead.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, catalin.marinas@arm.com,
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	peterx@redhat.com, joey.gouly@arm.com, ioworker0@gmail.com,
	baohua@kernel.org, kevin.brodsky@arm.com,
	quic_zhenhuah@quicinc.com, christophe.leroy@csgroup.eu,
	yangyicong@hisilicon.com, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	hughd@google.com, yang@os.amperecomputing.com, ziy@nvidia.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 6/7] mm: Optimize mprotect() by PTE batching
Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2025 09:15:53 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aJMPOTripINrafxh@willie-the-truck> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7567c594-7588-49e0-8b09-2a591181b24d@redhat.com>

On Wed, Aug 06, 2025 at 10:08:33AM +0200, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> On 18.07.25 11:02, Dev Jain wrote:
> > Use folio_pte_batch to batch process a large folio. Note that, PTE
> > batching here will save a few function calls, and this strategy in certain
> > cases (not this one) batches atomic operations in general, so we have
> > a performance win for all arches. This patch paves the way for patch 7
> > which will help us elide the TLBI per contig block on arm64.
> > 
> > The correctness of this patch lies on the correctness of setting the
> > new ptes based upon information only from the first pte of the batch
> > (which may also have accumulated a/d bits via modify_prot_start_ptes()).
> > 
> > Observe that the flag combination we pass to mprotect_folio_pte_batch()
> > guarantees that the batch is uniform w.r.t the soft-dirty bit and the
> > writable bit. Therefore, the only bits which may differ are the a/d bits.
> > So we only need to worry about code which is concerned about the a/d bits
> > of the PTEs.
> > 
> > Setting extra a/d bits on the new ptes where previously they were not set,
> > is fine - setting access bit when it was not set is not an incorrectness
> > problem but will only possibly delay the reclaim of the page mapped by
> > the pte (which is in fact intended because the kernel just operated on this
> > region via mprotect()!). Setting dirty bit when it was not set is again
> > not an incorrectness problem but will only possibly force an unnecessary
> > writeback.
> > 
> > So now we need to reason whether something can go wrong via
> > can_change_pte_writable(). The pte_protnone, pte_needs_soft_dirty_wp,
> > and userfaultfd_pte_wp cases are solved due to uniformity in the
> > corresponding bits guaranteed by the flag combination. The ptes all
> > belong to the same VMA (since callers guarantee that [start, end) will
> > lie within the VMA) therefore the conditional based on the VMA is also
> > safe to batch around.
> > 
> > Since the dirty bit on the PTE really is just an indication that the folio
> > got written to - even if the PTE is not actually dirty but one of the PTEs
> > in the batch is, the wp-fault optimization can be made. Therefore, it is
> > safe to batch around pte_dirty() in can_change_shared_pte_writable()
> > (in fact this is better since without batching, it may happen that
> > some ptes aren't changed to writable just because they are not dirty,
> > even though the other ptes mapping the same large folio are dirty).
> > 
> > To batch around the PageAnonExclusive case, we must check the corresponding
> > condition for every single page. Therefore, from the large folio batch,
> > we process sub batches of ptes mapping pages with the same
> > PageAnonExclusive condition, and process that sub batch, then determine
> > and process the next sub batch, and so on. Note that this does not cause
> > any extra overhead; if suppose the size of the folio batch is 512, then
> > the sub batch processing in total will take 512 iterations, which is the
> > same as what we would have done before.
> > 
> > For pte_needs_flush():
> > 
> > ppc does not care about the a/d bits.
> > 
> > For x86, PAGE_SAVED_DIRTY is ignored. We will flush only when a/d bits
> > get cleared; since we can only have extra a/d bits due to batching,
> > we will only have an extra flush, not a case where we elide a flush due
> > to batching when we shouldn't have.
> > 
> > Signed-off-by: Dev Jain <dev.jain@arm.com>
> 
> 
> I wanted to review this, but looks like it's already upstream and I suspect
> it's buggy (see the upstream report I cc'ed you on)

Please excuse my laziness, but do you have a link to the report? I've
been looking at some oddities on arm64 coming back from some of the CI
systems and was heading in the direction of a recent mm regression
judging by the first-known-bad-build in linux-next.

https://lore.kernel.org/r/CA+G9fYumD2MGjECCv0wx2V_96_FKNtFQpT63qVNrrCmomoPYVQ@mail.gmail.com

Will


  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-08-06  8:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-07-18  9:02 [PATCH v5 0/7] Optimize mprotect() for large folios Dev Jain
2025-07-18  9:02 ` [PATCH v5 1/7] mm: Refactor MM_CP_PROT_NUMA skipping case into new function Dev Jain
2025-07-18 16:19   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-20 23:44   ` Barry Song
2025-07-21  3:44     ` Dev Jain
2025-07-22 11:05       ` Dev Jain
2025-07-22 11:25   ` Ryan Roberts
2025-07-23 13:57   ` Zi Yan
2025-07-18  9:02 ` [PATCH v5 2/7] mm: Optimize mprotect() for MM_CP_PROT_NUMA by batch-skipping PTEs Dev Jain
2025-07-18 16:40   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-22 11:26   ` Ryan Roberts
2025-07-23 14:25   ` Zi Yan
2025-07-18  9:02 ` [PATCH v5 3/7] mm: Add batched versions of ptep_modify_prot_start/commit Dev Jain
2025-07-18 17:05   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-20 23:59   ` Barry Song
2025-07-22 11:35   ` Ryan Roberts
2025-07-23 15:09   ` Zi Yan
2025-07-18  9:02 ` [PATCH v5 4/7] mm: Introduce FPB_RESPECT_WRITE for PTE batching infrastructure Dev Jain
2025-07-18 17:12   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-22 11:37   ` Ryan Roberts
2025-07-23 15:28   ` Zi Yan
2025-07-23 15:32     ` Dev Jain
2025-07-18  9:02 ` [PATCH v5 5/7] mm: Split can_change_pte_writable() into private and shared parts Dev Jain
2025-07-18 17:27   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-23 15:40   ` Zi Yan
2025-07-18  9:02 ` [PATCH v5 6/7] mm: Optimize mprotect() by PTE batching Dev Jain
2025-07-18 18:49   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-19 13:46     ` Dev Jain
2025-07-20 11:20       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-20 14:39         ` Dev Jain
2025-07-24 19:55   ` Zi Yan
2025-08-06  8:08   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-08-06  8:12     ` David Hildenbrand
2025-08-06  8:15     ` Will Deacon [this message]
2025-08-06  8:19       ` David Hildenbrand
2025-08-06  8:53     ` Dev Jain
2025-08-06  8:56       ` David Hildenbrand
2025-08-06  9:12     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-06  9:21       ` David Hildenbrand
2025-08-06  9:37         ` Dev Jain
2025-08-06  9:50           ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-06 10:04             ` Dev Jain
2025-08-06 10:07               ` Dev Jain
2025-08-06 10:12               ` David Hildenbrand
2025-08-06 10:11             ` David Hildenbrand
2025-08-06 10:20               ` Dev Jain
2025-08-06 10:28                 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-08-06 10:45                 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-06 10:45               ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-18  9:02 ` [PATCH v5 7/7] arm64: Add batched versions of ptep_modify_prot_start/commit Dev Jain
2025-07-18 18:50   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-21 15:57   ` Catalin Marinas
2025-07-18  9:50 ` [PATCH v5 0/7] Optimize mprotect() for large folios Dev Jain
2025-07-18 18:53   ` Lorenzo Stoakes

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