From: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>
To: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
Cc: Dev Jain <dev.jain@arm.com>,
akpm@linux-foundation.org, ryan.roberts@arm.com,
willy@infradead.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 6/7] mm: Optimize mprotect() by PTE batching
Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2025 09:15:53 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aJMPOTripINrafxh@willie-the-truck> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7567c594-7588-49e0-8b09-2a591181b24d@redhat.com>
On Wed, Aug 06, 2025 at 10:08:33AM +0200, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> On 18.07.25 11:02, Dev Jain wrote:
> > Use folio_pte_batch to batch process a large folio. Note that, PTE
> > batching here will save a few function calls, and this strategy in certain
> > cases (not this one) batches atomic operations in general, so we have
> > a performance win for all arches. This patch paves the way for patch 7
> > which will help us elide the TLBI per contig block on arm64.
> >
> > The correctness of this patch lies on the correctness of setting the
> > new ptes based upon information only from the first pte of the batch
> > (which may also have accumulated a/d bits via modify_prot_start_ptes()).
> >
> > Observe that the flag combination we pass to mprotect_folio_pte_batch()
> > guarantees that the batch is uniform w.r.t the soft-dirty bit and the
> > writable bit. Therefore, the only bits which may differ are the a/d bits.
> > So we only need to worry about code which is concerned about the a/d bits
> > of the PTEs.
> >
> > Setting extra a/d bits on the new ptes where previously they were not set,
> > is fine - setting access bit when it was not set is not an incorrectness
> > problem but will only possibly delay the reclaim of the page mapped by
> > the pte (which is in fact intended because the kernel just operated on this
> > region via mprotect()!). Setting dirty bit when it was not set is again
> > not an incorrectness problem but will only possibly force an unnecessary
> > writeback.
> >
> > So now we need to reason whether something can go wrong via
> > can_change_pte_writable(). The pte_protnone, pte_needs_soft_dirty_wp,
> > and userfaultfd_pte_wp cases are solved due to uniformity in the
> > corresponding bits guaranteed by the flag combination. The ptes all
> > belong to the same VMA (since callers guarantee that [start, end) will
> > lie within the VMA) therefore the conditional based on the VMA is also
> > safe to batch around.
> >
> > Since the dirty bit on the PTE really is just an indication that the folio
> > got written to - even if the PTE is not actually dirty but one of the PTEs
> > in the batch is, the wp-fault optimization can be made. Therefore, it is
> > safe to batch around pte_dirty() in can_change_shared_pte_writable()
> > (in fact this is better since without batching, it may happen that
> > some ptes aren't changed to writable just because they are not dirty,
> > even though the other ptes mapping the same large folio are dirty).
> >
> > To batch around the PageAnonExclusive case, we must check the corresponding
> > condition for every single page. Therefore, from the large folio batch,
> > we process sub batches of ptes mapping pages with the same
> > PageAnonExclusive condition, and process that sub batch, then determine
> > and process the next sub batch, and so on. Note that this does not cause
> > any extra overhead; if suppose the size of the folio batch is 512, then
> > the sub batch processing in total will take 512 iterations, which is the
> > same as what we would have done before.
> >
> > For pte_needs_flush():
> >
> > ppc does not care about the a/d bits.
> >
> > For x86, PAGE_SAVED_DIRTY is ignored. We will flush only when a/d bits
> > get cleared; since we can only have extra a/d bits due to batching,
> > we will only have an extra flush, not a case where we elide a flush due
> > to batching when we shouldn't have.
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Dev Jain <dev.jain@arm.com>
>
>
> I wanted to review this, but looks like it's already upstream and I suspect
> it's buggy (see the upstream report I cc'ed you on)
Please excuse my laziness, but do you have a link to the report? I've
been looking at some oddities on arm64 coming back from some of the CI
systems and was heading in the direction of a recent mm regression
judging by the first-known-bad-build in linux-next.
https://lore.kernel.org/r/CA+G9fYumD2MGjECCv0wx2V_96_FKNtFQpT63qVNrrCmomoPYVQ@mail.gmail.com
Will
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-08-06 8:16 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-07-18 9:02 [PATCH v5 0/7] Optimize mprotect() for large folios Dev Jain
2025-07-18 9:02 ` [PATCH v5 1/7] mm: Refactor MM_CP_PROT_NUMA skipping case into new function Dev Jain
2025-07-18 16:19 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-20 23:44 ` Barry Song
2025-07-21 3:44 ` Dev Jain
2025-07-22 11:05 ` Dev Jain
2025-07-22 11:25 ` Ryan Roberts
2025-07-23 13:57 ` Zi Yan
2025-07-18 9:02 ` [PATCH v5 2/7] mm: Optimize mprotect() for MM_CP_PROT_NUMA by batch-skipping PTEs Dev Jain
2025-07-18 16:40 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-22 11:26 ` Ryan Roberts
2025-07-23 14:25 ` Zi Yan
2025-07-18 9:02 ` [PATCH v5 3/7] mm: Add batched versions of ptep_modify_prot_start/commit Dev Jain
2025-07-18 17:05 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-20 23:59 ` Barry Song
2025-07-22 11:35 ` Ryan Roberts
2025-07-23 15:09 ` Zi Yan
2025-07-18 9:02 ` [PATCH v5 4/7] mm: Introduce FPB_RESPECT_WRITE for PTE batching infrastructure Dev Jain
2025-07-18 17:12 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-22 11:37 ` Ryan Roberts
2025-07-23 15:28 ` Zi Yan
2025-07-23 15:32 ` Dev Jain
2025-07-18 9:02 ` [PATCH v5 5/7] mm: Split can_change_pte_writable() into private and shared parts Dev Jain
2025-07-18 17:27 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-23 15:40 ` Zi Yan
2025-07-18 9:02 ` [PATCH v5 6/7] mm: Optimize mprotect() by PTE batching Dev Jain
2025-07-18 18:49 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-19 13:46 ` Dev Jain
2025-07-20 11:20 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-20 14:39 ` Dev Jain
2025-07-24 19:55 ` Zi Yan
2025-08-06 8:08 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-08-06 8:12 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-08-06 8:15 ` Will Deacon [this message]
2025-08-06 8:19 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-08-06 8:53 ` Dev Jain
2025-08-06 8:56 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-08-06 9:12 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-06 9:21 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-08-06 9:37 ` Dev Jain
2025-08-06 9:50 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-06 10:04 ` Dev Jain
2025-08-06 10:07 ` Dev Jain
2025-08-06 10:12 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-08-06 10:11 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-08-06 10:20 ` Dev Jain
2025-08-06 10:28 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-08-06 10:45 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-06 10:45 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-18 9:02 ` [PATCH v5 7/7] arm64: Add batched versions of ptep_modify_prot_start/commit Dev Jain
2025-07-18 18:50 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-21 15:57 ` Catalin Marinas
2025-07-18 9:50 ` [PATCH v5 0/7] Optimize mprotect() for large folios Dev Jain
2025-07-18 18:53 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
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