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From: Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>
To: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
Cc: Nikita Kalyazin <kalyazin@amazon.com>,
	Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>,
	Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	Muchun Song <muchun.song@linux.dev>,
	Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	James Houghton <jthoughton@google.com>,
	"Liam R . Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	Oscar Salvador <osalvador@suse.de>,
	Axel Rasmussen <axelrasmussen@google.com>,
	Ujwal Kundur <ujwal.kundur@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/4] mm: Introduce vm_uffd_ops API
Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2025 20:48:29 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aGbCbW7hUf3a2do2@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aGWMsfbayEco0j4R@x1.local>

On Wed, Jul 02, 2025 at 03:46:57PM -0400, Peter Xu wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 02, 2025 at 08:39:32PM +0300, Mike Rapoport wrote:
> 
> [...]
> 
> > > The main target of this change is the implementation of UFFD for
> > > KVM/guest_memfd (examples: [1], [2]) to avoid bringing KVM-specific code
> > > into the mm codebase.  We usually mean KVM by the "drivers" in this context,
> > > and it is already somewhat "knowledgeable" of the mm.  I don't think there
> > > are existing use cases for other drivers to implement this at the moment.
> > > 
> > > Although I can't see new exports in this series, there is now a way to limit
> > > exports to particular modules [3].  Would it help if we only do it for KVM
> > > initially (if/when actually needed)?
> > 
> > There were talks about pulling out guest_memfd core into mm, but I don't
> > remember patches about it. If parts of guest_memfd were already in mm/ that
> > would make easier to export uffd ops to it.
> 
> Do we have a link to such discussion?  I'm also curious whether that idea
> was acknowledged by KVM maintainers.

AFAIR it was discussed at one of David's guest_memfd calls
 
> Having an abstraction layer for userfaultfd memtypes within mm always makes
> some sense on its own to me, so as to remove separate random checks over
> either shmem or hugetlb.  E.g. after the series applied, we can drop the
> shmem header in userfaultfd code, which should also be a step forward.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> >  
> > > [1]
> > > https://lore.kernel.org/all/114133f5-0282-463d-9d65-3143aa658806@amazon.com/
> > > [2]
> > > https://lore.kernel.org/all/7666ee96-6f09-4dc1-8cb2-002a2d2a29cf@amazon.com/
> > > [3] https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/masahiroy/linux-kbuild.git/commit/?h=kbuild&id=707f853d7fa3ce323a6875487890c213e34d81a0
> 
> -- 
> Peter Xu
> 

-- 
Sincerely yours,
Mike.


  reply	other threads:[~2025-07-03 17:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-06-27 15:46 [PATCH v2 0/4] mm/userfaultfd: modulize memory types Peter Xu
2025-06-27 15:46 ` [PATCH v2 1/4] mm: Introduce vm_uffd_ops API Peter Xu
2025-06-29  8:50   ` Mike Rapoport
2025-07-02 19:30     ` Peter Xu
2025-06-30 10:15   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-01 17:04     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-07-02 15:40       ` Liam R. Howlett
2025-07-02 15:56       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-02 17:08         ` Nikita Kalyazin
2025-07-02 17:39           ` Mike Rapoport
2025-07-02 19:46             ` Peter Xu
2025-07-03 17:48               ` Mike Rapoport [this message]
2025-07-04  9:34                 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-07-04 14:59                   ` Peter Xu
2025-07-04 19:39                     ` Liam R. Howlett
2025-09-01 16:01                       ` Nikita Kalyazin
2025-09-08 16:53                         ` Liam R. Howlett
2025-09-16 20:05                           ` Peter Xu
2025-09-17 15:29                             ` Liam R. Howlett
2025-09-17  9:25                           ` Mike Rapoport
2025-09-17 16:53                             ` Liam R. Howlett
2025-09-18  8:37                               ` Mike Rapoport
2025-09-18 16:47                                 ` Liam R. Howlett
2025-09-18 17:15                                   ` Nikita Kalyazin
2025-09-18 17:45                                     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-18 17:53                                       ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-18 18:20                                         ` Peter Xu
2025-09-18 19:43                                           ` Liam R. Howlett
2025-09-18 21:07                                             ` Peter Xu
2025-09-19  1:50                                               ` Liam R. Howlett
2025-09-19 14:16                                                 ` Peter Xu
2025-09-19 14:34                                                   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-19 15:12                                                     ` Peter Xu
2025-09-19 19:38                                                   ` Liam R. Howlett
2025-09-22 16:33                                                     ` Peter Xu
2025-09-22 17:20                                           ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-22 18:03                                             ` Peter Xu
2025-09-18 17:54                                     ` Liam R. Howlett
2025-09-18 18:05                                   ` Mike Rapoport
2025-09-18 18:32                                     ` Liam R. Howlett
2025-09-18 19:32                                       ` Peter Xu
2025-09-19  9:05                                       ` Mike Rapoport
2025-09-16 19:55                       ` Peter Xu
2025-09-19 17:22                         ` Liam R. Howlett
2025-09-22 16:38                           ` Peter Xu
2025-07-02 21:24           ` Liam R. Howlett
2025-07-02 21:36             ` Peter Xu
2025-07-03  2:00               ` Liam R. Howlett
2025-07-03 15:24                 ` Peter Xu
2025-07-03 16:15                   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-03 17:39                   ` Liam R. Howlett
2025-07-02 20:24         ` Peter Xu
2025-07-03 16:32           ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-02 18:16       ` Mike Rapoport
2025-07-02 20:22         ` Peter Xu
2025-07-03 15:01           ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-07-03 15:45             ` Peter Xu
2025-07-03 16:01               ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-06-27 15:46 ` [PATCH v2 2/4] mm/shmem: Support " Peter Xu
2025-06-29  8:51   ` Mike Rapoport
2025-06-27 15:46 ` [PATCH v2 3/4] mm/hugetlb: " Peter Xu
2025-06-29  8:52   ` Mike Rapoport
2025-06-27 15:46 ` [PATCH v2 4/4] mm: Apply vm_uffd_ops API to core mm Peter Xu
2025-06-29  8:55   ` Mike Rapoport
2025-07-02 20:38     ` Peter Xu
2025-06-30 10:29 ` [PATCH v2 0/4] mm/userfaultfd: modulize memory types Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-01  0:15   ` Andrew Morton
2025-07-02 20:36   ` Peter Xu
2025-07-03 15:55     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-03 16:26       ` Peter Xu
2025-07-03 16:44         ` Lorenzo Stoakes

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