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From: Oscar Salvador <osalvador@suse.de>
To: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Liam R. Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
	Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>, Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>,
	Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>,
	Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>, Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>,
	Matthew Brost <matthew.brost@intel.com>,
	Joshua Hahn <joshua.hahnjy@gmail.com>,
	Rakie Kim <rakie.kim@sk.com>, Byungchul Park <byungchul@sk.com>,
	Gregory Price <gourry@gourry.net>,
	Ying Huang <ying.huang@linux.alibaba.com>,
	Alistair Popple <apopple@nvidia.com>,
	Pedro Falcato <pfalcato@suse.de>, Rik van Riel <riel@surriel.com>,
	Harry Yoo <harry.yoo@oracle.com>,
	Lance Yang <ioworker0@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 4/4] mm: remove boolean output parameters from folio_pte_batch_ext()
Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2025 19:53:37 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aGVyIZby0mCBz0Yl@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3f8d6f3f-f98b-4f90-95d5-f4a09d61c88a@redhat.com>

On Wed, Jul 02, 2025 at 04:40:30PM +0200, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> But more importantly, usually young+dirty is a moving target as HW can
> usually update it asynchronously.

Ok, you mean they often get queried both at once?

> So in the common case, you really have to rely on the young+dirty bits from
> get_and_clear_full_ptes(), and not on the current snapshot while the page
> remains mapped.
> 
> The madvise() use case is rather special in that sense.

I see.
I mean, codewise this looks like an improvement, I was just puzzled by the
fact that we're dealing with young+dirty together (while we didn't before),
but given that get_and_clear_full_ptes() do that already, I guess it makes
sense if that's the way we usually operate.

I wasn't familiar with that, thinking about it makes sense, but I wonder whether
we could place a comment either in the definition of FPB_MERGE_YOUNG_DIRTY, or in
the handling of it in folio_pte_batch_flags().
I guess in the definition would make more sense.


Whether you decide to move forward on the comment or not (could be
squashed), I'm ok with this. 


-- 
Oscar Salvador
SUSE Labs


  reply	other threads:[~2025-07-02 17:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-07-02 10:49 [PATCH v2 0/4] mm: folio_pte_batch() improvements David Hildenbrand
2025-07-02 10:49 ` [PATCH v2 1/4] mm: convert FPB_IGNORE_* into FPB_RESPECT_* David Hildenbrand
2025-07-03 10:05   ` Dev Jain
2025-07-02 10:49 ` [PATCH v2 2/4] mm: smaller folio_pte_batch() improvements David Hildenbrand
2025-07-02 14:24   ` Zi Yan
2025-07-03 10:18   ` Dev Jain
2025-07-02 10:49 ` [PATCH v2 3/4] mm: split folio_pte_batch() into folio_pte_batch() and folio_pte_batch_flags() David Hildenbrand
2025-07-02 14:25   ` Zi Yan
2025-07-03 10:45   ` Dev Jain
2025-07-02 10:49 ` [PATCH v2 4/4] mm: remove boolean output parameters from folio_pte_batch_ext() David Hildenbrand
2025-07-02 14:00   ` Oscar Salvador
2025-07-02 14:40     ` David Hildenbrand
2025-07-02 17:53       ` Oscar Salvador [this message]
2025-07-03  9:16   ` Oscar Salvador
2025-07-03 12:56   ` Dev Jain
2025-08-04  8:22   ` Wei Yang
2025-08-04  8:23     ` David Hildenbrand

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