From: Harry Yoo <harry.yoo@oracle.com>
To: Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>
Cc: bpf <bpf@vger.kernel.org>, linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev>,
Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
Sebastian Sewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>,
Andrii Nakryiko <andrii@kernel.org>,
Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi <memxor@gmail.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: SLAB_NO_CMPXCHG was:: [PATCH 6/6] slab: Introduce kmalloc_nolock() and kfree_nolock().
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2025 20:38:23 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aFvfr1KiNrLofavW@hyeyoo> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAADnVQKQ-kqpO_vkyDcaUdvrvntWjwUfDy00SOawuRMrx0rfzw@mail.gmail.com>
On Tue, Jun 24, 2025 at 10:13:49AM -0700, Alexei Starovoitov wrote:
> On Thu, May 8, 2025 at 6:03 PM Harry Yoo <harry.yoo@oracle.com> wrote:
> > > + s = kmalloc_slab(size, NULL, alloc_gfp, _RET_IP_);
> > > +
> > > + if (!(s->flags & __CMPXCHG_DOUBLE))
> > > + /*
> > > + * kmalloc_nolock() is not supported on architectures that
> > > + * don't implement cmpxchg16b.
> > > + */
> > > + return NULL;
> >
> > Hmm when someone uses slab debugging flags (e.g., passing boot
> > parameter slab_debug=FPZ as a hardening option on production [1], or
> > just for debugging), __CMPXCHG_DOUBLE is not set even when the arch
> > supports it.
> >
> > Is it okay to fail all kmalloc_nolock() calls in such cases?
>
> I studied the code and the git history.
> Looks like slub doesn't have to disable cmpxchg mode when slab_debug is on.
A slight correction; Debug caches do not use cmpxchg mode at all by
design. If a future change enables cmpxchg mode for them, it will cause
the same consistency issue.
> The commit 41bec7c33f37 ("mm/slub: remove slab_lock() usage for debug
> operations")
> removed slab_lock from debug validation checks.
An excellent point!
Yes, SLUB does not maintain cpu slab and percpu partial slabs on
debug caches. Alloc/free is done under n->list_lock, so no need for
cmpxchg double and slab_lock() at all :)
> So right now slab_lock() only serializes slab->freelist/counter update.
> It's still necessary on arch-s that don't have cmpxchg, but that's it.
> Only __update_freelist_slow() is using it.
Yes.
> The comment next to SLAB_NO_CMPXCHG is obsolete as well.
> It's been there since days that slab_lock() was taken during
> consistency checks.
Yes.
> I think the following diff is appropriate:
>
> diff --git a/mm/slub.c b/mm/slub.c
> index 044e43ee3373..9d615cfd1b6f 100644
> --- a/mm/slub.c
> +++ b/mm/slub.c
> @@ -286,14 +286,6 @@ static inline bool
> kmem_cache_has_cpu_partial(struct kmem_cache *s)
> #define DEBUG_DEFAULT_FLAGS (SLAB_CONSISTENCY_CHECKS | SLAB_RED_ZONE | \
> SLAB_POISON | SLAB_STORE_USER)
>
> -/*
> - * These debug flags cannot use CMPXCHG because there might be consistency
> - * issues when checking or reading debug information
> - */
> -#define SLAB_NO_CMPXCHG (SLAB_CONSISTENCY_CHECKS | SLAB_STORE_USER | \
> - SLAB_TRACE)
> -
> -
>
> /*
> * Debugging flags that require metadata to be stored in the slab. These get
> * disabled when slab_debug=O is used and a cache's min order increases with
> @@ -6654,7 +6646,7 @@ int do_kmem_cache_create(struct kmem_cache *s,
> const char *name,
> }
>
> #ifdef system_has_freelist_aba
> - if (system_has_freelist_aba() && !(s->flags & SLAB_NO_CMPXCHG)) {
> + if (system_has_freelist_aba()) {
> /* Enable fast mode */
> s->flags |= __CMPXCHG_DOUBLE;
> }
>
> It survived my stress tests.
> Thoughts?
Perhaps it's better to change the condition in
kmalloc_nolock_noprof() from;
if (!(s->flags & __CMPXCHG_DOUBLE))
return NULL;
to;
if (!(s->flags & __CMPXCHG_DOUBLE) && !kmem_cache_debug(s))
return NULL;
Because debug caches do not use cmpxchg double (and that's why
it survived your test), it is not accurate to set __CMPXCHG_DOUBLE.
And it'll get into trouble anyway if debug caches use cmpxchg double.
--
Cheers,
Harry / Hyeonggon
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-06-25 11:38 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-05-01 3:27 [PATCH 0/6] mm: Reentrant kmalloc Alexei Starovoitov
2025-05-01 3:27 ` [PATCH 1/6] mm: Rename try_alloc_pages() to alloc_pages_nolock() Alexei Starovoitov
2025-05-06 8:26 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-05-07 1:24 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2025-05-01 3:27 ` [PATCH 2/6] locking/local_lock: Expose dep_map in local_trylock_t Alexei Starovoitov
2025-05-06 12:56 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-05-06 14:55 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-05-07 1:25 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2025-05-12 13:26 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-05-12 16:46 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2025-05-01 3:27 ` [PATCH 3/6] locking/local_lock: Introduce local_lock_is_locked() Alexei Starovoitov
2025-05-06 12:59 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-05-07 1:28 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2025-05-12 14:56 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-05-12 15:01 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-05-12 15:23 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-05-01 3:27 ` [PATCH 4/6] locking/local_lock: Introduce local_lock_irqsave_check() Alexei Starovoitov
2025-05-07 13:02 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-05-12 14:03 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-05-12 17:16 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2025-05-13 6:58 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-05-13 21:55 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2025-05-01 3:27 ` [PATCH 5/6] mm: Allow GFP_ACCOUNT and GFP_COMP to be used in alloc_pages_nolock() Alexei Starovoitov
2025-05-06 8:55 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-05-07 1:33 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2025-05-01 3:27 ` [PATCH 6/6] slab: Introduce kmalloc_nolock() and kfree_nolock() Alexei Starovoitov
2025-05-05 18:46 ` Shakeel Butt
2025-05-06 0:49 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2025-05-06 1:24 ` Shakeel Butt
2025-05-06 1:51 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2025-05-06 18:05 ` Shakeel Butt
2025-05-06 12:01 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-05-07 0:31 ` Harry Yoo
2025-05-07 2:23 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2025-05-07 8:38 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-05-07 2:20 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2025-05-07 10:44 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-05-09 1:03 ` Harry Yoo
2025-06-24 17:13 ` SLAB_NO_CMPXCHG was:: " Alexei Starovoitov
2025-06-25 11:38 ` Harry Yoo [this message]
2025-06-26 20:03 ` Alexei Starovoitov
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