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From: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
Cc: kernel test robot <lkp@intel.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, oe-kbuild-all@lists.linux.dev,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
	Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>, Alex Mastro <amastro@fb.com>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
	Nico Pache <npache@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/5] vfio: Introduce vfio_device_ops.get_unmapped_area hook
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2025 19:26:24 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aFH5oO1M1_TZz4NF@x1.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250617230030.GB1575786@nvidia.com>

On Tue, Jun 17, 2025 at 08:00:30PM -0300, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 17, 2025 at 04:01:11PM -0400, Peter Xu wrote:
> 
> > > So what is VFIO doing that requires CONFIG_ARCH_SUPPORTS_HUGE_PFNMAP?
> > 
> > It's the fallback part for vfio device, not vfio_pci device.  vfio_pci
> > device doesn't need this special treatment after moving to the new helper
> > because that hides everything.  vfio_device still needs it.
> > 
> > So, we have two ops that need to be touched to support this:
> > 
> >         vfio_device_fops
> >         vfio_pci_ops 
> > 
> > For the 1st one's vfio_device_fops.get_unmapped_area(), it'll need its own
> > fallback which must be mm_get_unmapped_area() to keep the old behavior, and
> > that was defined only if CONFIG_MMU.
> 
> OK, CONFIG_MMU makes a little bit of sense
> 
> > IOW, if one day file_operations.get_unmapped_area() would allow some other
> > retval to be able to fallback to the default (mm_get_unmapped_area()), then
> > we don't need this special ifdef.  But now it's not ready for that..
> 
> That can't be fixed with a config, the logic in vfio_device_fops has
> to be 
> 
> if (!device->ops->get_unmapped_area()
>    return .. do_default thing..
> 
> return device->ops->get_unmapped()
> 
> Has nothing to do with CONFIG_ARCH_SUPPORTS_HUGE_PFNMAP, there are
> more device->ops that just PCI.

IMHO CONFIG_ARCH_SUPPORTS_HUGE_PFNMAP doesn't imply anything PCI specific
either, it only says an arch supports PFNMAP in larger than PAGE_SIZE.
IIUC it doesn't necessarily need to be PCI.

So here in this case, get_unmapped_area() will only be customized if the
kernel is compiled with any possible huge mapping on pfnmaps.  Otherwise
the customized hook isn't needed.

> 
> If you do the API with an align/order argument then the default
> behavior should happen when passing PAGE_SIZE.

This should indeed also work.

I'll wait for comments in the other threads.  So far I didn't yet add the
"order" parameter or anything like it.  If we would like to have the
parameter, I can use it here to avoid the ifdef with PAGE_SIZE / PAGE_SHIFT
/ .... when repost.

Said that, I don't think I understand at all the use of get_unmapped_area()
for !MMU use case.

Thanks,

-- 
Peter Xu



  reply	other threads:[~2025-06-17 23:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-06-13 13:41 [PATCH 0/5] mm/vfio: huge pfnmaps with !MAP_FIXED mappings Peter Xu
2025-06-13 13:41 ` [PATCH 1/5] mm: Deduplicate mm_get_unmapped_area() Peter Xu
2025-06-13 14:12   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-13 14:55   ` Oscar Salvador
2025-06-13 14:58   ` Zi Yan
2025-06-13 15:57   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-06-13 17:00     ` Pedro Falcato
2025-06-13 18:00   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-16  8:01   ` David Laight
2025-06-17 21:13     ` Peter Xu
2025-06-13 13:41 ` [PATCH 2/5] mm/hugetlb: Remove prepare_hugepage_range() Peter Xu
2025-06-13 14:12   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-13 14:59   ` Oscar Salvador
2025-06-13 15:13   ` Zi Yan
2025-06-13 16:24     ` Peter Xu
2025-06-13 18:01       ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-14  4:11   ` Liam R. Howlett
2025-06-17 21:07     ` Peter Xu
2025-06-13 13:41 ` [PATCH 3/5] mm: Rename __thp_get_unmapped_area to mm_get_unmapped_area_aligned Peter Xu
2025-06-13 14:17   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-13 15:13     ` Peter Xu
2025-06-13 16:00       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-13 18:31         ` Peter Xu
2025-06-13 15:19   ` Zi Yan
2025-06-13 18:33     ` Peter Xu
2025-06-13 15:36   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-06-13 18:45     ` Peter Xu
2025-06-13 19:18       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-06-13 20:34         ` Peter Xu
2025-06-14  5:58           ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-06-14  5:23   ` Liam R. Howlett
2025-06-16 12:14     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-16 12:20       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-06-16 12:26         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-13 13:41 ` [PATCH 4/5] vfio: Introduce vfio_device_ops.get_unmapped_area hook Peter Xu
2025-06-13 14:18   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-13 18:03   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-14 14:46   ` kernel test robot
2025-06-17 15:39     ` Peter Xu
2025-06-17 15:41       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-17 16:47         ` Peter Xu
2025-06-17 19:39           ` Peter Xu
2025-06-17 19:46             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-17 20:01               ` Peter Xu
2025-06-17 23:00                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-17 23:26                   ` Peter Xu [this message]
2025-06-13 13:41 ` [PATCH 5/5] vfio-pci: Best-effort huge pfnmaps with !MAP_FIXED mappings Peter Xu
2025-06-13 14:29   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-13 15:26     ` Peter Xu
2025-06-13 16:09       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-13 19:15         ` Peter Xu
2025-06-13 23:16           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-16 22:06             ` Peter Xu
2025-06-16 23:00               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-17 20:56                 ` Peter Xu
2025-06-17 23:18                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-17 23:36                     ` Peter Xu
2025-06-18 16:56                       ` Peter Xu
2025-06-18 17:46                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-18 19:15                           ` Peter Xu
2025-06-19 13:58                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-19 14:55                               ` Peter Xu
2025-06-19 18:40                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-24 20:37                                   ` Peter Xu
2025-06-24 20:51                                     ` Peter Xu
2025-06-24 23:40                                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-25  0:48                                       ` Peter Xu
2025-06-25 13:07                                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-25 17:12                                           ` Peter Xu
2025-06-25 18:41                                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-25 19:26                                               ` Peter Xu
2025-06-30 14:05                                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-07-02 20:58                                                   ` Peter Xu
2025-07-02 23:32                                                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-13 17:44   ` Alex Mastro
2025-06-13 18:53     ` Peter Xu
2025-06-13 18:09   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-13 19:21     ` Peter Xu

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