From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>,
david@redhat.com, shakeel.butt@linux.dev,
lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com, Liam.Howlett@oracle.com,
vbabka@suse.cz, rppt@kernel.org, surenb@google.com,
donettom@linux.ibm.com, aboorvad@linux.ibm.com, sj@kernel.org,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm: fix the inaccurate memory statistics issue for users
Date: Fri, 30 May 2025 15:39:36 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aDm1GCV8yToFG1cq@tiehlicka> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250529205313.a1285b431bbec2c54d80266d@linux-foundation.org>
On Thu 29-05-25 20:53:13, Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Sat, 24 May 2025 09:59:53 +0800 Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com> wrote:
>
> > On some large machines with a high number of CPUs running a 64K pagesize
> > kernel, we found that the 'RES' field is always 0 displayed by the top
> > command for some processes, which will cause a lot of confusion for users.
> >
> > PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND
> > 875525 root 20 0 12480 0 0 R 0.3 0.0 0:00.08 top
> > 1 root 20 0 172800 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:04.52 systemd
> >
> > The main reason is that the batch size of the percpu counter is quite large
> > on these machines, caching a significant percpu value, since converting mm's
> > rss stats into percpu_counter by commit f1a7941243c1 ("mm: convert mm's rss
> > stats into percpu_counter"). Intuitively, the batch number should be optimized,
> > but on some paths, performance may take precedence over statistical accuracy.
> > Therefore, introducing a new interface to add the percpu statistical count
> > and display it to users, which can remove the confusion. In addition, this
> > change is not expected to be on a performance-critical path, so the modification
> > should be acceptable.
> >
> > Fixes: f1a7941243c1 ("mm: convert mm's rss stats into percpu_counter")
>
> Three years ago.
>
> > Tested-by Donet Tom <donettom@linux.ibm.com>
> > Reviewed-by: Aboorva Devarajan <aboorvad@linux.ibm.com>
> > Tested-by: Aboorva Devarajan <aboorvad@linux.ibm.com>
> > Acked-by: Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev>
> > Acked-by: SeongJae Park <sj@kernel.org>
> > Signed-off-by: Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>
>
> Thanks, I added cc:stable to this.
I have only noticed this new posting now. I do not think this is a
stable material. I am also not convinced that the impact of the pcp lock
exposure to the userspace has been properly analyzed and documented in
the changelog. I am not nacking the patch (yet) but I would like to see
a serious analyses that this has been properly thought through.
--
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-05-30 13:39 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-05-24 1:59 Baolin Wang
2025-05-30 3:53 ` Andrew Morton
2025-05-30 13:39 ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2025-05-30 23:00 ` Andrew Morton
2025-06-03 8:08 ` Baolin Wang
2025-06-03 8:15 ` Michal Hocko
2025-06-03 8:32 ` Baolin Wang
2025-06-03 10:28 ` Michal Hocko
2025-06-03 14:22 ` Baolin Wang
2025-06-03 14:48 ` Michal Hocko
2025-06-03 17:29 ` Shakeel Butt
2025-06-04 12:46 ` Baolin Wang
2025-06-04 13:46 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-06-04 14:16 ` Baolin Wang
2025-06-04 14:27 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-06-04 16:54 ` Shakeel Butt
2025-06-05 0:48 ` Baolin Wang
2025-06-05 6:32 ` Michal Hocko
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