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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>,
	david@redhat.com, shakeel.butt@linux.dev,
	lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com, Liam.Howlett@oracle.com,
	vbabka@suse.cz, rppt@kernel.org, surenb@google.com,
	donettom@linux.ibm.com, aboorvad@linux.ibm.com, sj@kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm: fix the inaccurate memory statistics issue for users
Date: Fri, 30 May 2025 15:39:36 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aDm1GCV8yToFG1cq@tiehlicka> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250529205313.a1285b431bbec2c54d80266d@linux-foundation.org>

On Thu 29-05-25 20:53:13, Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Sat, 24 May 2025 09:59:53 +0800 Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com> wrote:
> 
> > On some large machines with a high number of CPUs running a 64K pagesize
> > kernel, we found that the 'RES' field is always 0 displayed by the top
> > command for some processes, which will cause a lot of confusion for users.
> > 
> >     PID USER      PR  NI    VIRT    RES    SHR S  %CPU  %MEM     TIME+ COMMAND
> >  875525 root      20   0   12480      0      0 R   0.3   0.0   0:00.08 top
> >       1 root      20   0  172800      0      0 S   0.0   0.0   0:04.52 systemd
> > 
> > The main reason is that the batch size of the percpu counter is quite large
> > on these machines, caching a significant percpu value, since converting mm's
> > rss stats into percpu_counter by commit f1a7941243c1 ("mm: convert mm's rss
> > stats into percpu_counter"). Intuitively, the batch number should be optimized,
> > but on some paths, performance may take precedence over statistical accuracy.
> > Therefore, introducing a new interface to add the percpu statistical count
> > and display it to users, which can remove the confusion. In addition, this
> > change is not expected to be on a performance-critical path, so the modification
> > should be acceptable.
> > 
> > Fixes: f1a7941243c1 ("mm: convert mm's rss stats into percpu_counter")
> 
> Three years ago.
> 
> > Tested-by Donet Tom <donettom@linux.ibm.com>
> > Reviewed-by: Aboorva Devarajan <aboorvad@linux.ibm.com>
> > Tested-by: Aboorva Devarajan <aboorvad@linux.ibm.com>
> > Acked-by: Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev>
> > Acked-by: SeongJae Park <sj@kernel.org>
> > Signed-off-by: Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>
> 
> Thanks, I added cc:stable to this.

I have only noticed this new posting now. I do not think this is a
stable material. I am also not convinced that the impact of the pcp lock
exposure to the userspace has been properly analyzed and documented in
the changelog. I am not nacking the patch (yet) but I would like to see
a serious analyses that this has been properly thought through.

-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs


  reply	other threads:[~2025-05-30 13:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-05-24  1:59 Baolin Wang
2025-05-30  3:53 ` Andrew Morton
2025-05-30 13:39   ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2025-05-30 23:00     ` Andrew Morton
2025-06-03  8:08     ` Baolin Wang
2025-06-03  8:15       ` Michal Hocko
2025-06-03  8:32         ` Baolin Wang
2025-06-03 10:28           ` Michal Hocko
2025-06-03 14:22             ` Baolin Wang
2025-06-03 14:48               ` Michal Hocko
2025-06-03 17:29                 ` Shakeel Butt
2025-06-04 12:46                   ` Baolin Wang
2025-06-04 13:46                     ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-06-04 14:16                       ` Baolin Wang
2025-06-04 14:27                         ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-06-04 16:54                         ` Shakeel Butt
2025-06-05  0:48                           ` Baolin Wang
2025-06-05  6:32                             ` Michal Hocko

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