From: Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>
To: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
Cc: Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Barry Song <baohua@kernel.org>,
"Liam R . Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
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Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
Muchun Song <muchun.song@linux.dev>,
Oscar Salvador <osalvador@suse.de>,
Huacai Chen <chenhuacai@kernel.org>,
WANG Xuerui <kernel@xen0n.name>, Jonas Bonn <jonas@southpole.se>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH RESEND] mm/pagewalk: split walk_page_range_novma() into kernel/user parts
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2025 11:07:05 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aD_-qdg2OvKQIyRg@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <51ec4269-b132-4163-9cb5-766042a3769d@redhat.com>
On Wed, Jun 04, 2025 at 09:39:30AM +0200, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> On 03.06.25 21:22, Lorenzo Stoakes wrote:
> > The walk_page_range_novma() function is rather confusing - it supports two
> > modes, one used often, the other used only for debugging.
> >
> > The first mode is the common case of traversal of kernel page tables, which
> > is what nearly all callers use this for.
>
> ... and what people should be using it for 🙂
>
> >
> > Secondly it provides an unusual debugging interface that allows for the
> > traversal of page tables in a userland range of memory even for that memory
> > which is not described by a VMA.
> >
> > This is highly unusual and it is far from certain that such page tables
> > should even exist, but perhaps this is precisely why it is useful as a
> > debugging mechanism.
> >
> > As a result, this is utilised by ptdump only. Historically, things were
> > reversed - ptdump was the only user, and other parts of the kernel evolved
> > to use the kernel page table walking here.
> >
> > Since we have some complicated and confusing locking rules for the novma
> > case, it makes sense to separate the two usages into their own functions.
> >
> > Doing this also provide self-documentation as to the intent of the caller -
> > are they doing something rather unusual or are they simply doing a standard
> > kernel page table walk?
> >
> > We therefore maintain walk_page_range_novma() for this single usage, and
> > document the function as such.
>
> If we have to keep this dangerous interface, it should probably be
>
> walk_page_range_debug() or walk_page_range_dump()
We can also move it from include/linux/pagewalk.h to mm/internal.h
> >
> > Note that ptdump uses the precise same function for kernel walking as a
> > convenience, so we permit this but make it very explicit by having
> > walk_page_range_novma() invoke walk_page_range_kernel() in this case.
> >
> > We introduce walk_page_range_kernel() for the far more common case of
> > kernel page table traversal.
>
> I wonder if we should give it a completely different name scheme to
> highlight that this is something completely different.
>
> walk_kernel_page_table_range()
>
> etc.
>
>
> --
> Cheers,
>
> David / dhildenb
>
--
Sincerely yours,
Mike.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-06-04 8:07 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-06-03 19:22 Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-06-04 7:39 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-04 8:07 ` Mike Rapoport [this message]
2025-06-04 8:12 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-04 9:09 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-06-04 12:26 ` Oscar Salvador
2025-06-04 12:31 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-06-04 9:20 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
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