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From: Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>
To: Pankaj Raghav <p.raghav@samsung.com>
Cc: Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Nico Pache <npache@redhat.com>, Dev Jain <dev.jain@arm.com>,
	Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	"H . Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>, Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
	Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Liam R . Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
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	"Darrick J . Wong" <djwong@kernel.org>,
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Subject: Re: [RFC v2 0/2] add THP_HUGE_ZERO_PAGE_ALWAYS config option
Date: Thu, 22 May 2025 14:31:36 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aC8LGDwJXvlDl866@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250522090243.758943-1-p.raghav@samsung.com>

Hi Pankaj,

On Thu, May 22, 2025 at 11:02:41AM +0200, Pankaj Raghav wrote:
> There are many places in the kernel where we need to zeroout larger
> chunks but the maximum segment we can zeroout at a time by ZERO_PAGE
> is limited by PAGE_SIZE.
> 
> This concern was raised during the review of adding Large Block Size support
> to XFS[1][2].
> 
> This is especially annoying in block devices and filesystems where we
> attach multiple ZERO_PAGEs to the bio in different bvecs. With multipage
> bvec support in block layer, it is much more efficient to send out
> larger zero pages as a part of a single bvec.
> 
> Some examples of places in the kernel where this could be useful:
> - blkdev_issue_zero_pages()
> - iomap_dio_zero()
> - vmalloc.c:zero_iter()
> - rxperf_process_call()
> - fscrypt_zeroout_range_inline_crypt()
> - bch2_checksum_update()
> ...
> 
> We already have huge_zero_folio that is allocated on demand, and it will be
> deallocated by the shrinker if there are no users of it left.
> 
> But to use huge_zero_folio, we need to pass a mm struct and the
> put_folio needs to be called in the destructor. This makes sense for
> systems that have memory constraints but for bigger servers, it does not
> matter if the PMD size is reasonable (like x86).
> 
> Add a config option THP_HUGE_ZERO_PAGE_ALWAYS that will always allocate
> the huge_zero_folio, and it will never be freed. This makes using the
> huge_zero_folio without having to pass any mm struct and a call to put_folio
> in the destructor.

I don't think this config option should be tied to THP. It's perfectly
sensible to have a configuration with HUGETLB and without THP.
 
> I have converted blkdev_issue_zero_pages() as an example as a part of
> this series.
> 
> I will send patches to individual subsystems using the huge_zero_folio
> once this gets upstreamed.
> 
> Looking forward to some feedback.
> 
> [1] https://lore.kernel.org/linux-xfs/20231027051847.GA7885@lst.de/
> [2] https://lore.kernel.org/linux-xfs/ZitIK5OnR7ZNY0IG@infradead.org/
> 
> Changes since v1:
> - Added the config option based on the feedback from David.
> - Removed iomap patches so that I don't clutter this series with too
>   many subsystems.
> 
> Pankaj Raghav (2):
>   mm: add THP_HUGE_ZERO_PAGE_ALWAYS config option
>   block: use mm_huge_zero_folio in __blkdev_issue_zero_pages()
> 
>  arch/x86/Kconfig |  1 +
>  block/blk-lib.c  | 15 +++++++++---
>  mm/Kconfig       | 12 +++++++++
>  mm/huge_memory.c | 63 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++----------
>  4 files changed, 74 insertions(+), 17 deletions(-)
> 
> 
> base-commit: f1f6aceb82a55f87d04e2896ac3782162e7859bd
> -- 
> 2.47.2
> 
> 

-- 
Sincerely yours,
Mike.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-05-22 11:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-05-22  9:02 Pankaj Raghav
2025-05-22  9:02 ` [RFC v2 1/2] mm: " Pankaj Raghav
2025-05-22  9:02 ` [RFC v2 2/2] block: use mm_huge_zero_folio in __blkdev_issue_zero_pages() Pankaj Raghav
2025-05-22 11:31 ` Mike Rapoport [this message]
2025-05-22 12:00   ` [RFC v2 0/2] add THP_HUGE_ZERO_PAGE_ALWAYS config option Pankaj Raghav (Samsung)
2025-05-22 12:04     ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-22 12:34       ` Pankaj Raghav (Samsung)
2025-05-22 12:50         ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-22 13:34           ` Pankaj Raghav (Samsung)
2025-05-22 12:01   ` David Hildenbrand

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