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From: Gregory Price <gourry@gourry.net>
To: SeongJae Park <sj@kernel.org>
Cc: Bharata B Rao <bharata@amd.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	Jonathan.Cameron@huawei.com, dave.hansen@intel.com,
	hannes@cmpxchg.org, mgorman@techsingularity.net,
	mingo@redhat.com, peterz@infradead.org, raghavendra.kt@amd.com,
	riel@surriel.com, rientjes@google.com, weixugc@google.com,
	willy@infradead.org, ying.huang@linux.alibaba.com,
	ziy@nvidia.com, dave@stgolabs.net, nifan.cxl@gmail.com,
	joshua.hahnjy@gmail.com, xuezhengchu@huawei.com,
	yiannis@zptcorp.com, akpm@linux-foundation.org, david@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v0 0/2] Batch migration for NUMA balancing
Date: Wed, 21 May 2025 23:08:16 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aC6VIG7GPnqr3ug-@gourry-fedora-PF4VCD3F> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250521184552.46414-1-sj@kernel.org>

On Wed, May 21, 2025 at 11:45:52AM -0700, SeongJae Park wrote:
> Hi Bharata,
> 
> On Wed, 21 May 2025 13:32:36 +0530 Bharata B Rao <bharata@amd.com> wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > This is an attempt to convert the NUMA balancing to do batched
> > migration instead of migrating one folio at a time. The basic
> > idea is to collect (from hint fault handler) the folios to be
> > migrated in a list and batch-migrate them from task_work context.
> > More details about the specifics are present in patch 2/2.
> > 
> > During LSFMM[1] and subsequent discussions in MM alignment calls[2],
> > it was suggested that separate migration threads to handle migration
> > or promotion request may be desirable. Existing NUMA balancing, hot
> > page promotion and other future promotion techniques could off-load
> > migration part to these threads. Or if we manage to have a single
> > source of hotness truth like kpromoted[3], then that too can hand
> > over migration requests to the migration threads. I am envisaging
> > that different hotness sources like kmmscand[4], MGLRU[5], IBS[6]
> > and CXL HMU would push hot page info to kpromoted, which would
> > then isolate and push the folios to be promoted to the migrator
> > thread.
> 
> I think (or, hope) it would also be not very worthless or rude to mention other
> existing and ongoing works that have potentials to serve for similar purpose or
> collaborate in future, here.
> 
> DAMON is designed for a sort of multi-source access information handling.  In
> LSFMM, I proposed[1] damon_report_access() interface for making it easier to be
> extended for more types of access information.  Currenlty damon_report_access()
> is under early development.  I think this has a potential to serve something
> similar to your single source goal.
> 

It seems to me that DAMON might make use of the batch migration
interface, so if you need any changes or extensions, it might be good
for you (SJ) to take a look at that for us.

~Gregory


  reply	other threads:[~2025-05-22  3:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-05-21  8:02 Bharata B Rao
2025-05-21  8:02 ` [RFC PATCH v0 1/2] migrate: implement migrate_misplaced_folio_batch Bharata B Rao
2025-05-22 15:59   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-22 16:03     ` Gregory Price
2025-05-22 16:08       ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-26  8:16   ` Huang, Ying
2025-05-21  8:02 ` [RFC PATCH v0 2/2] mm: sched: Batch-migrate misplaced pages Bharata B Rao
2025-05-21 18:25   ` Donet Tom
2025-05-21 18:40     ` Zi Yan
2025-05-22  3:24       ` Gregory Price
2025-05-22  5:23         ` Bharata B Rao
2025-05-22  4:42       ` Bharata B Rao
2025-05-22  4:39     ` Bharata B Rao
2025-05-23  9:05       ` Donet Tom
2025-05-22  3:55   ` Gregory Price
2025-05-22  7:33     ` Bharata B Rao
2025-05-22 15:38       ` Gregory Price
2025-05-22 16:11   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-22 16:24     ` Zi Yan
2025-05-22 16:26       ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-22 16:38         ` Zi Yan
2025-05-22 17:21           ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-22 17:30             ` Zi Yan
2025-05-26  8:33               ` Huang, Ying
2025-05-26  9:29               ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-26 14:20                 ` Zi Yan
2025-05-27  1:18                   ` Huang, Ying
2025-05-27  1:27                     ` Zi Yan
2025-05-28 12:25                   ` Karim Manaouil
2025-05-26  5:14     ` Bharata B Rao
2025-05-21 18:45 ` [RFC PATCH v0 0/2] Batch migration for NUMA balancing SeongJae Park
2025-05-22  3:08   ` Gregory Price [this message]
2025-05-22 16:30     ` SeongJae Park
2025-05-22 17:40       ` Gregory Price
2025-05-22 18:52         ` SeongJae Park
2025-05-22 18:43   ` Apologies and clarifications on DAMON-disruptions (was Re: [RFC PATCH v0 0/2] Batch migration for NUMA balancing) SeongJae Park
2025-05-26  5:20   ` [RFC PATCH v0 0/2] Batch migration for NUMA balancing Bharata B Rao
2025-05-27 18:50     ` SeongJae Park
2025-05-26  8:46 ` Huang, Ying
2025-05-27  8:53   ` Bharata B Rao
2025-05-27  9:05     ` Huang, Ying

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