From: John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>
To: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>, Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
Cc: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
Christopher Lameter <cl@linux.com>,
Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>,
Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-rdma <linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/6] mm: introduce page->dma_pinned_flags, _count
Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 18:48:23 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <a9f1df2f-da9d-bf7b-b977-d3d3ca710776@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20181016085102.GB18918@quack2.suse.cz>
On 10/16/18 1:51 AM, Jan Kara wrote:
> On Sun 14-10-18 10:01:24, Dave Chinner wrote:
>> On Sat, Oct 13, 2018 at 12:34:12AM -0700, John Hubbard wrote:
>>> On 10/12/18 8:55 PM, Dave Chinner wrote:
>>>> On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 11:00:12PM -0700, john.hubbard@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>> From: John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>
>>> [...]
>>>>> diff --git a/include/linux/mm_types.h b/include/linux/mm_types.h
>>>>> index 5ed8f6292a53..017ab82e36ca 100644
>>>>> --- a/include/linux/mm_types.h
>>>>> +++ b/include/linux/mm_types.h
>>>>> @@ -78,12 +78,22 @@ struct page {
>>>>> */
>>>>> union {
>>>>> struct { /* Page cache and anonymous pages */
>>>>> - /**
>>>>> - * @lru: Pageout list, eg. active_list protected by
>>>>> - * zone_lru_lock. Sometimes used as a generic list
>>>>> - * by the page owner.
>>>>> - */
>>>>> - struct list_head lru;
>>>>> + union {
>>>>> + /**
>>>>> + * @lru: Pageout list, eg. active_list protected
>>>>> + * by zone_lru_lock. Sometimes used as a
>>>>> + * generic list by the page owner.
>>>>> + */
>>>>> + struct list_head lru;
>>>>> + /* Used by get_user_pages*(). Pages may not be
>>>>> + * on an LRU while these dma_pinned_* fields
>>>>> + * are in use.
>>>>> + */
>>>>> + struct {
>>>>> + unsigned long dma_pinned_flags;
>>>>> + atomic_t dma_pinned_count;
>>>>> + };
>>>>> + };
>>>>
>>>> Isn't this broken for mapped file-backed pages? i.e. they may be
>>>> passed as the user buffer to read/write direct IO and so the pages
>>>> passed to gup will be on the active/inactive LRUs. hence I can't see
>>>> how you can have dual use of the LRU list head like this....
>>>>
>>>> What am I missing here?
>>>
>>> Hi Dave,
>>>
>>> In patch 6/6, pin_page_for_dma(), which is called at the end of get_user_pages(),
>>> unceremoniously rips the pages out of the LRU, as a prerequisite to using
>>> either of the page->dma_pinned_* fields.
>>
>> How is that safe? If you've ripped the page out of the LRU, it's no
>> longer being tracked by the page cache aging and reclaim algorithms.
>> Patch 6 doesn't appear to put these pages back in the LRU, either,
>> so it looks to me like this just dumps them on the ground after the
>> gup reference is dropped. How do we reclaim these page cache pages
>> when there is memory pressure if they aren't in the LRU?
>
> Yeah, that's a bug in patch 6/6 (possibly in ClearPageDmaPinned). It should
> return the page to the LRU from put_user_page().
>
Yes. Ugh, the LRU handling in this series is definitely not all there yet:
probably need to track (in the page->dma_pinned_flags) which LRU (if any) each
page was taken from.
It's hard to say exactly what the active/inactive/unevictable list should
be when DMA is done and put_user_page*() is called, because we don't know
if some device read, wrote, or ignored any of those pages. Although if
put_user_pages_dirty() is called, that's an argument for "active", at least.
And maybe this will all be pointless if the DIRECT_IO performance test, that
Christoph requested, shows that LRU operations are too expensive here, anyway.
I wonder if we should just limit this to 64-bit arches and find a real
page flag...well, let's see what the testing shows first I suppose.
--
thanks,
John Hubbard
NVIDIA
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-10-17 1:48 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-10-12 6:00 [PATCH 0/6] RFC: gup+dma: tracking dma-pinned pages john.hubbard
2018-10-12 6:00 ` [PATCH 1/6] mm: get_user_pages: consolidate error handling john.hubbard
2018-10-12 6:30 ` Balbir Singh
2018-10-12 22:45 ` John Hubbard
2018-10-12 6:00 ` [PATCH 2/6] mm: introduce put_user_page*(), placeholder versions john.hubbard
2018-10-12 7:35 ` Balbir Singh
2018-10-12 22:31 ` John Hubbard
2018-10-12 6:00 ` [PATCH 3/6] infiniband/mm: convert put_page() to put_user_page*() john.hubbard
2018-10-12 6:00 ` [PATCH 4/6] mm: introduce page->dma_pinned_flags, _count john.hubbard
2018-10-12 10:56 ` Balbir Singh
2018-10-13 0:15 ` John Hubbard
2018-10-24 11:00 ` Balbir Singh
2018-11-02 23:27 ` John Hubbard
2018-10-13 3:55 ` Dave Chinner
2018-10-13 7:34 ` John Hubbard
2018-10-13 16:47 ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-10-13 21:19 ` John Hubbard
2018-11-05 7:10 ` John Hubbard
2018-11-05 9:54 ` Jan Kara
2018-11-06 0:26 ` John Hubbard
2018-11-06 2:47 ` Dave Chinner
2018-11-06 11:00 ` Jan Kara
2018-11-06 20:41 ` Dave Chinner
2018-11-07 6:36 ` John Hubbard
2018-10-13 23:01 ` Dave Chinner
2018-10-16 8:51 ` Jan Kara
2018-10-17 1:48 ` John Hubbard [this message]
2018-10-17 11:09 ` Michal Hocko
2018-10-18 0:03 ` John Hubbard
2018-10-19 8:11 ` Michal Hocko
2018-10-12 6:00 ` [PATCH 5/6] mm: introduce zone_gup_lock, for dma-pinned pages john.hubbard
2018-10-12 6:00 ` [PATCH 6/6] mm: track gup pages with page->dma_pinned_* fields john.hubbard
2018-10-12 11:07 ` Balbir Singh
2018-10-13 0:33 ` John Hubbard
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