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From: Lance Yang <lance.yang@linux.dev>
To: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
	"Zhuo, Qiuxu" <qiuxu.zhuo@intel.com>
Cc: "Luck, Tony" <tony.luck@intel.com>,
	Jiaqi Yan <jiaqiyan@google.com>,
	"akpm@linux-foundation.org" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com" <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>,
	"linmiaohe@huawei.com" <linmiaohe@huawei.com>,
	"ziy@nvidia.com" <ziy@nvidia.com>,
	"baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com" <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>,
	"Liam.Howlett@oracle.com" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
	"npache@redhat.com" <npache@redhat.com>,
	"ryan.roberts@arm.com" <ryan.roberts@arm.com>,
	"dev.jain@arm.com" <dev.jain@arm.com>,
	"baohua@kernel.org" <baohua@kernel.org>,
	"nao.horiguchi@gmail.com" <nao.horiguchi@gmail.com>,
	"Chen, Farrah" <farrah.chen@intel.com>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andrew Zaborowski <andrew.zaborowski@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/1] mm: prevent poison consumption when splitting THP
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2025 18:20:22 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a94541b0-7c3c-4551-a03c-e1f83445baa7@linux.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f637f793-7979-4817-bfb4-732ddb7d2e32@linux.dev>



On 2025/9/30 18:13, Lance Yang wrote:
> 
> 
> On 2025/9/30 16:53, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>> On 30.09.25 03:48, Lance Yang wrote:
>>> On Tue, Sep 30, 2025 at 3:07 AM David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 29.09.25 18:30, Zhuo, Qiuxu wrote:
>>>>> Hi Tony,
>>>>>
>>>>>> From: Luck, Tony <tony.luck@intel.com>
>>>>>> [...]
>>>>>> Subject: RE: [PATCH 1/1] mm: prevent poison consumption when 
>>>>>> splitting THP
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Miaohe mentioned in another e-mail that there was an HWPoisoned flag
>>>>>> for the raw error 4K page.
>>>>>>> We could use that flag just to skip that raw error page and still 
>>>>>>> use
>>>>>>> the zeropage for other healthy sub-pages. I'll try that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That HWPoisoned flag is only set for raw pages where an error has 
>>>>>> been
>>>>>> detected. Maybe Linux could implement an
>>>>>> "is_this_page_all_zero_mc_safe()"[1] that would catch undetected 
>>>>>> poison
>>>>>
>>>>> This sounds like a great suggestion to me.
>>>>> Let's see what others think about this and the name (though the 
>>>>> name already LGTM 😊).
>>>>
>>>> The function name is just ... special. Not the good type of special 
>>>> IMHO. :)
>>>>
>>>> Note that we'll be moving to pages_identical() in [1]. Maybe we would
>>>> want a pages_identical_mc() or sth. like that as a follow up later.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> So in any case, make that a follow-up work on top of a simple fix.
>>>
>>> Yeah. IIRC, as David suggested earlier, we can just check if a page is
>>> poisoned using PageHWPoison().
>>>
>>> Perhaps we should move this check into pages_identical()? This would 
>>> make
>>> it a central place to determine if pages are safe to access and merge ;)
>>
>> I would have to go into memcmp_pages(). Would be an option, but not 
>> sure if we should rather let callers deal with that.
>>
>> For example, in some cases it might be sufficient to just check if the 
>> large folio has any poisoned page and give up early.
> 
> FWIW, one idea I had was to create a unified pre-flight checker, like
> folio_pages_identical_prepare(struct folio *folio). A caller could use
> it before a loop of pages_identical() calls to pre-check a folio :)

Forgot to add:

It would centralize all folio-level checks.

So if we ever need a new check in the future, we'd only modify the
prepare helper, not all the individual callers.


  reply	other threads:[~2025-09-30 10:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-09-28  3:28 Qiuxu Zhuo
2025-09-28 21:55 ` Jiaqi Yan
2025-09-29 12:29   ` Miaohe Lin
2025-09-29 13:57     ` Zhuo, Qiuxu
2025-09-29 15:15       ` Jiaqi Yan
2025-09-29 13:27   ` Zhuo, Qiuxu
2025-09-29 15:51     ` Luck, Tony
2025-09-29 16:30       ` Zhuo, Qiuxu
2025-09-29 17:25         ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-30  1:48           ` Lance Yang
2025-09-30  8:53             ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-30 10:13               ` Lance Yang
2025-09-30 10:20                 ` Lance Yang [this message]
2025-09-29  7:34 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-29 13:52   ` Zhuo, Qiuxu
2025-09-29 16:12     ` David Hildenbrand
2025-10-12  1:37   ` Wei Yang
2025-10-12  4:23     ` Jiaqi Yan
2025-10-11  7:55 ` [PATCH v2 " Qiuxu Zhuo
2025-10-11  9:09   ` Lance Yang
2025-10-11 18:18   ` Andrew Morton
2025-10-12  1:23   ` Wei Yang
2025-10-13 17:15   ` Zi Yan
2025-10-14  2:42   ` Miaohe Lin
2025-10-14 14:19 ` [PATCH v3 " Qiuxu Zhuo
2025-10-14 14:29   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-10-14 14:51     ` Zhuo, Qiuxu
2025-10-15  6:49 ` [PATCH v4 " Qiuxu Zhuo

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