From: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>
To: Mateusz Guzik <mjguzik@gmail.com>,
Sweet Tea Dorminy <sweettea-kernel@dorminy.me>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@kernel.org>,
Dennis Zhou <dennis@kernel.org>, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm: use per-numa-node atomics instead of percpu_counters
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2025 16:35:35 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <a89cb4d9-088e-4ed6-afde-f1b097de8db9@efficios.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <evqxyt5dkkervut7q4ea4dnykcz75lxx2wvqyg2lq7m3ptam3c@53ao37tlhytk>
On 2025-03-26 19:36, Mateusz Guzik wrote:
[...]
>
> Hell, it may be your patch as is can be easily repurposed to
> decentralize the main percpu counter? I mean perhaps there is no need
> for any fancy hierarchical structure.
Here is an initial attempt at a design document for the hierarchical
percpu counters. Feedback welcome!
Split Counters With Binary Tree Approximation Propagation
=========================================================
Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>
March 27, 2025
* Propagation diagram when reaching batch size thresholds (± batch size):
Example diagram for 8 CPUs:
log2(8) = 3 levels
At each level, each pair propagates its values to the next level when
reaching the batch size thresholds.
Counters at levels 0, 1, 2 can be kept on a single byte (±128 range).
Counter at level 3 can be kept on a 32/64-bit counter.
Level 0: 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7
| / | / | / | /
| / | / | / | /
| / | / | / | /
Level 1: 0 1 2 3
| / | /
| / | /
| / | /
Level 2: 0 1
| /
| /
| /
Level 3: 0
* Inaccuracy:
BATCH(level N): Level N batch size.
Example for BATCH(level 0) = 4
BATCH(level 0) = 4
BATCH(level 1) = 8
BATCH(level 2) = 16
BATCH(level N) = BATCH(level 0) * 2^N
per-counter global
inaccuracy inaccuracy
Level 0: ± 3 ± 24 (8 * 3)
Level 1: ± 7 ± 28 (4 * 7)
Level 2: ± 15 ± 30 (2 * 15)
Total: ------ ± 82 (log2(nr_cpus) * BATCH(level 0) * nr_cpus - Sum[0 .. log2(nr_cpus) - 1](nr_cpus / 2^n)
Thanks,
Mathieu
--
Mathieu Desnoyers
EfficiOS Inc.
https://www.efficios.com
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-03-27 20:35 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-03-25 22:15 Sweet Tea Dorminy
2025-03-26 19:56 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-03-26 21:54 ` Mateusz Guzik
2025-03-26 23:36 ` Mateusz Guzik
2025-03-27 20:35 ` Mathieu Desnoyers [this message]
2025-03-31 12:32 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
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