From: Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>
To: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 05/12] fs/proc/task_mmu: refactor pagemap_pmd_range()
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2025 16:38:05 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <a813aa51-cc5c-4375-9146-31699b4be4ca@lucifer.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <dac763e0-3912-439d-a9c3-6e54bf3329c6@redhat.com>
On Mon, Oct 27, 2025 at 05:31:54PM +0100, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> >
> > I don't love the union.
> >
> > How would we determine what type it is, we'd have to have some
> > generic_leaf_entry_t type or something to contain the swap type field and then
> > cast and... is it worth it?
> >
> > Intent of non-present was to refer to not-swap swapentry. It's already a
> > convention that exists, e.g. is_pmd_non_present_folio_entry().
>
> Just noting that this was a recent addition (still not upstream) that
> essentially says "there is a folio here, but it's not in an ordinary present
> page table entry.
>
> So we could change that to something better.
Yeah but leaf_entry_t encapsulates BOTH swap and non-swap entries.
So that's nice.
What do you propose calling non-swap leaf entries? It starts spiralling down a
bit there.
And it's really common to have logic asserting it's actually a swap entry
vs. not etc.
I think we need to separate out what's practical for this series and what's
ideal going forwards.
Right now it's a complete mess, I don't want this to turn into a talking shop
that bogs things down so we don't move forward because it doesn't address
everything all at once.
What we have here already improves things dramatically IMO.
So what I propose is:
1. we keep the non-present terminology as a better way of referring to non-swap
entries.
2. When I come to do the leaf_entry_t series, we can generalise and no longer
differentiate between swap + non-swap.
We can then resume the discussion re: type there.
>
> --
> Cheers
>
> David / dhildenb
>
THanks, Lorenzo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-10-27 16:38 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-10-24 7:41 [RFC PATCH 00/12] remove is_swap_[pte, pmd]() + non-swap confusion Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-10-24 7:41 ` [RFC PATCH 01/12] mm: introduce and use pte_to_swp_entry_or_zero() Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-10-24 7:41 ` [RFC PATCH 02/12] mm: avoid unnecessary uses of is_swap_pte() Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-10-24 7:41 ` [RFC PATCH 03/12] mm: introduce get_pte_swap_entry() and use it Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-10-24 7:41 ` [RFC PATCH 04/12] mm: use get_pte_swap_entry() in debug pgtable + remove is_swap_pte() Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-10-24 7:41 ` [RFC PATCH 05/12] fs/proc/task_mmu: refactor pagemap_pmd_range() Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-10-24 17:32 ` Gregory Price
2025-10-24 18:19 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-10-24 19:12 ` Gregory Price
2025-10-24 20:15 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-10-24 20:37 ` Gregory Price
2025-10-27 15:26 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-10-27 16:11 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-10-27 16:15 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-10-27 16:26 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-10-27 16:31 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-10-27 16:38 ` Lorenzo Stoakes [this message]
2025-10-27 17:08 ` Alexander Gordeev
2025-10-28 12:52 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-10-28 13:09 ` Gregory Price
2025-10-28 17:36 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-10-28 18:23 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-10-27 16:38 ` Gregory Price
2025-10-24 7:41 ` [RFC PATCH 06/12] mm: avoid unnecessary use of is_swap_pmd() Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-10-24 7:41 ` [RFC PATCH 07/12] mm: introduce is_huge_pmd() and use where appropriate Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-10-24 7:41 ` [RFC PATCH 08/12] mm/huge_memory: refactor copy_huge_pmd() non-present logic Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-10-24 7:41 ` [RFC PATCH 09/12] mm/huge_memory: refactor change_huge_pmd() " Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-10-24 18:41 ` Gregory Price
2025-10-24 18:44 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-10-24 19:09 ` Gregory Price
2025-10-24 7:41 ` [RFC PATCH 10/12] mm: remove remaining is_swap_pmd() users and is_swap_pmd() Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-10-24 7:41 ` [RFC PATCH 11/12] mm: rename non_swap_entry() to is_non_present_entry() Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-10-24 19:07 ` Gregory Price
2025-10-24 20:17 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-10-24 7:41 ` [RFC PATCH 12/12] mm: provide is_swap_entry() and use it Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-10-24 20:05 ` [RFC PATCH 00/12] remove is_swap_[pte, pmd]() + non-swap confusion Yosry Ahmed
2025-10-24 20:14 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-10-27 16:09 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-10-27 17:33 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-10-28 12:48 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-10-28 18:20 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-10-29 14:10 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-10-29 19:09 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-10-29 21:23 ` Gregory Price
2025-10-30 10:21 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-11-02 14:27 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-10-27 23:32 ` Gregory Price
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