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From: Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>
To: Wei Yang <richard.weiyang@gmail.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	"Liam R . Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>, Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>,
	Alice Ryhl <aliceryhl@google.com>,
	Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
	Hillf Danton <hdanton@sina.com>,
	Qi Zheng <zhengqi.arch@bytedance.com>,
	SeongJae Park <sj@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] docs/mm: add VMA locks documentation
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2024 10:31:50 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a7653ed5-0acf-4ce7-a10b-6d146096e957@lucifer.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20241111024244.5ro262uyorwhxq3v@master>

On Mon, Nov 11, 2024 at 02:42:44AM +0000, Wei Yang wrote:

> >+Read locks are acquired via :c:func:`!vma_start_read`, which is an optimistic
> >+operation, i.e. it tries to acquire a read lock but returns false if it is
> >+unable to do so. At the end of the read operation, :c:func:`!vma_end_read` is
> >+called to release the VMA read lock. This can be done under RCU alone.
> >+
> >+Writing requires the mmap to be write-locked and the VMA lock to be acquired via
> >+:c:func:`!vma_start_write`, however the write lock is released by the termination or
> >+downgrade of the mmap write lock so no :c:func:`!vma_end_write` is required.
> >+
> >+All this is achieved by the use of per-mm and per-VMA sequence counts, which are
> >+used in order to reduce complexity, especially for operations which write-lock
> >+multiple VMAs at once.
> >+
>
> Hi, Lorenzo
>
> I got a question more than a comment when trying to understand the mechanism.
p>
> I am thinking about the benefit of PER_VMA_LOCK.
>
> For write, we always need to grab mmap_lock w/o PER_VMA_LOCK.
> For read, seems we don't need to grab mmap_lock with PER_VMA_LOCK. So read
> operation benefit the most with PER_VMA_LOCK, right?

Yes this is the point of it, VMA fields are read-mostly and the most natural use
for this is page faulting.

The whole intent is to allow for the read lock under RCU.


  reply	other threads:[~2024-11-11 10:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-11-07 19:01 Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-11-07 21:15 ` Jann Horn
2024-11-08 10:35   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-11-08  8:26 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2024-11-08  8:59   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-11-08 12:25 ` Bagas Sanjaya
2024-11-08 12:29   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-11-08 12:34     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-11-12  1:12       ` Bagas Sanjaya
2024-11-11  2:42 ` Wei Yang
2024-11-11 10:31   ` Lorenzo Stoakes [this message]
2024-11-11  7:07 ` Wei Yang
2024-11-11 10:39   ` Lorenzo Stoakes

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