From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
Olivier Dion <odion@efficios.com>,
linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/2] SKSM: Synchronous Kernel Samepage Merging
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2025 16:34:50 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <a70158c3-d683-42d6-8af5-c800d51039e4@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHk-=wgedRzDqOLhbOnvziVHZm9jtGOrT4GJEqA9etJDwTQ5Mg@mail.gmail.com>
On 28.02.25 03:51, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Thu, 27 Feb 2025 at 18:31, Mathieu Desnoyers
> <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com> wrote:
>>
>> This series introduces SKSM, a new page deduplication ABI,
>> aiming to fix the limitations inherent to the KSM ABI.
>
> So I'm not interested in seeing *another* KSM version.
>
> Because I absolutely do *NOT* want a new chapter in the saga of SLUB
> vs SLAB vs SLOB.
>
> However, if the feeling is that this can *replace* the current horror
> that is KSM, I'm a lot more interested. I suspect our current KSM
> model has largely been a failure, and this might be "good enough".
Maybe it would be comparable to khugepaged vs. MADV_COLLAPSE?
Many/most use cases just leave THP scanning+collapsing to khugepaged;
selected ones might "know better" what to do, so they effectively
disable khugepaged, and manually collapse THPs using MADV_COLLAPSE.
If it would be similar to that, it would not be completely different KSM
version, just a different way to trigger merging: background scanning
vs. user-space triggered ("synchronous").
I could see use cases for such a synchronous interface, but I doubt it
could replace the background scanning that is actively getting used for
existing use cases; I have similar thoughts about khugepaged vs.
MADV_COLLAPSE.
--
Cheers,
David / dhildenb
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-02-28 15:35 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-02-28 2:30 Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-02-28 2:30 ` [RFC PATCH 1/2] mm: Introduce " Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-02-28 2:30 ` [RFC PATCH 2/2] selftests/kskm: Introduce SKSM basic test Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-02-28 2:51 ` [RFC PATCH 0/2] SKSM: Synchronous Kernel Samepage Merging Linus Torvalds
2025-02-28 3:03 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-02-28 5:17 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-02-28 13:59 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-02-28 14:59 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-02-28 15:10 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-02-28 15:19 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-02-28 21:38 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-02-28 21:45 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-02-28 21:49 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-02-28 15:01 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-02-28 15:18 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-02-28 14:59 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-02-28 16:32 ` Peter Xu
2025-02-28 17:53 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-02-28 22:32 ` Peter Xu
2025-03-01 15:44 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-03-03 15:01 ` Peter Xu
2025-03-03 16:36 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-03-03 20:01 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-03-03 20:45 ` Peter Xu
2025-03-03 20:49 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-03-05 14:06 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-03-05 19:22 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-02-28 15:34 ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2025-02-28 15:38 ` Matthew Wilcox
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