From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: "Pankaj Raghav (Samsung)" <kernel@pankajraghav.com>,
Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/5] mm: add mm_get_static_huge_zero_folio() routine
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2025 11:14:07 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <a65ee315-23b7-4058-895a-69045829bd01@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <cglmujb275faqkpqmb75mz4tt5dtruvhntpe5t4qyzjr363qyr@vluzyx4hukap>
On 12.06.25 22:54, Pankaj Raghav (Samsung) wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 12, 2025 at 07:09:34AM -0700, Dave Hansen wrote:
>> On 6/12/25 03:50, Pankaj Raghav wrote:
>>> +/*
>>> + * mm_get_static_huge_zero_folio - Get a PMD sized zero folio
>>
>> Isn't that a rather inaccurate function name and comment?
> I agree. I also felt it was not a good name for the function.
>
>>
>> The third line of the function literally returns a non-PMD-sized zero folio.
>>
>>> + * This function will return a PMD sized zero folio if CONFIG_STATIC_PMD_ZERO_PAGE
>>> + * is enabled. Otherwise, a ZERO_PAGE folio is returned.
>>> + *
>>> + * Deduce the size of the folio with folio_size instead of assuming the
>>> + * folio size.
>>> + */
>>> +static inline struct folio *mm_get_static_huge_zero_folio(void)
>>> +{
>>> + if(IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_STATIC_PMD_ZERO_PAGE))
>>> + return READ_ONCE(huge_zero_folio);
>>> + return page_folio(ZERO_PAGE(0));
>>> +}
>>
>> This doesn't tell us very much about when I should use:
>>
>> mm_get_static_huge_zero_folio()
>> vs.
>> mm_get_huge_zero_folio(mm)
>> vs.
>> page_folio(ZERO_PAGE(0))
>>
>> What's with the "mm_" in the name? Usually "mm" means "mm_struct" not
>> Memory Management. It's really weird to prefix something that doesn't
>> take an "mm_struct" with "mm_"
>
> Got it. Actually, I was not aware of this one.
>
>>
>> Isn't the "get_" also a bad idea since mm_get_huge_zero_folio() does its
>> own refcounting but this interface does not?
>>
>
> Agree.
>
>> Shouldn't this be something more along the lines of:
>>
>> /*
>> * pick_zero_folio() - Pick and return the largest available zero folio
>> *
>> * mm_get_huge_zero_folio() is preferred over this function. It is more
>> * flexible and can provide a larger zero page under wider
>> * circumstances.
>> *
>> * Only use this when there is no mm available.
>> *
>> * ... then other comments
>> */
>> static inline struct folio *pick_zero_folio(void)
>> {
>> if (IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_STATIC_PMD_ZERO_PAGE))
>> return READ_ONCE(huge_zero_folio);
>> return page_folio(ZERO_PAGE(0));
>> }
>>
>> Or, maybe even name it _just_: zero_folio()
>
> I think zero_folio() sounds like a good and straightforward name. In
> most cases it will return a ZERO_PAGE() folio. If
> CONFIG_STATIC_PMD_ZERO_PAGE is enabled, then we return a PMD page.
"zero_folio" would be confusing I'm afraid.
At least with current "is_zero_folio" etc.
"largest_zero_folio" or sth. like that might make it clearer that the
size we are getting back might actually differ.
--
Cheers,
David / dhildenb
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-06-16 9:14 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-06-12 10:50 [PATCH 0/5] add STATIC_PMD_ZERO_PAGE config option Pankaj Raghav
2025-06-12 10:50 ` [PATCH 1/5] mm: move huge_zero_page declaration from huge_mm.h to mm.h Pankaj Raghav
2025-06-12 10:50 ` [PATCH 2/5] huge_memory: add huge_zero_page_shrinker_(init|exit) function Pankaj Raghav
2025-06-12 10:50 ` [PATCH 3/5] mm: add static PMD zero page Pankaj Raghav
2025-06-24 8:51 ` kernel test robot
2025-06-12 10:50 ` [PATCH 4/5] mm: add mm_get_static_huge_zero_folio() routine Pankaj Raghav
2025-06-12 14:09 ` Dave Hansen
2025-06-12 20:54 ` Pankaj Raghav (Samsung)
2025-06-16 9:14 ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2025-06-16 10:41 ` Pankaj Raghav (Samsung)
2025-06-12 10:51 ` [PATCH 5/5] block: use mm_huge_zero_folio in __blkdev_issue_zero_pages() Pankaj Raghav
2025-06-12 13:50 ` [PATCH 0/5] add STATIC_PMD_ZERO_PAGE config option Dave Hansen
2025-06-12 20:36 ` Pankaj Raghav (Samsung)
2025-06-12 21:46 ` Dave Hansen
2025-06-13 8:58 ` Pankaj Raghav (Samsung)
2025-06-16 9:12 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-16 10:49 ` Pankaj Raghav (Samsung)
2025-06-16 5:40 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-06-16 9:00 ` Pankaj Raghav
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