From: Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@infradead.org>
To: John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>,
"Song Bao Hua (Barry Song)" <song.bao.hua@hisilicon.com>,
"akpm@linux-foundation.org" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Cc: Linuxarm <linuxarm@huawei.com>,
Ralph Campbell <rcampbell@nvidia.com>,
John Garry <john.garry@huawei.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm/gup_benchmark: GUP_BENCHMARK depends on DEBUG_FS
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2020 14:20:56 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <a5f5b63a-ff9d-ed74-212f-f959f038b781@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e6b74390-6a80-9aae-17b2-536ffa0d1aae@nvidia.com>
On 11/7/20 11:16 AM, John Hubbard wrote:
> On 11/7/20 11:05 AM, Song Bao Hua (Barry Song) wrote:
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: John Hubbard [mailto:jhubbard@nvidia.com]
> ...
>>>> config GUP_BENCHMARK
>>>> bool "Enable infrastructure for get_user_pages() and related calls
>>> benchmarking"
>>>> + depends on DEBUG_FS
>>>
>>>
>>> I think "select DEBUG_FS" is better here. "depends on" has the obnoxious
>>> behavior of hiding the choice from you, if the dependencies aren't already met.
>>> Whereas what the developer *really* wants is a no-nonsense activation of the
>>> choice: "enable GUP_BENCHMARK and the debug fs that it requires".
>>>
>>
>> To some extent, I agree with you. But I still think here it is better to use "depends on".
>> According to
>> https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/kbuild/kconfig-language.txt
>>
>> select should be used with care. select will force
>> a symbol to a value without visiting the dependencies.
>> By abusing select you are able to select a symbol FOO even
>> if FOO depends on BAR that is not set.
>> In general use select only for non-visible symbols
>> (no prompts anywhere) and for symbols with no dependencies.
>> That will limit the usefulness but on the other hand avoid
>> the illegal configurations all over.
>>
>> On the other hand, in kernel there are 78 "depends on DEBUG_FS" and
>> only 14 "select DEBUG_FS".
>>
>
> You're not looking at the best statistics. Go look at what *already* selects
> DEBUG_FS, and you'll find about 50 items.
Sorry, I'm not following you. I see the same 14 "select DEBUG_FS" as Barry.
In general we don't want any one large "feature" (or subsystem) to be enabled
by one driver. If someone has gone to the trouble to disable DEBUG_FS (or whatever),
then a different Kconfig symbol shouldn't undo that.
--
~Randy
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-11-07 22:21 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-11-04 10:05 Barry Song
2020-11-07 0:12 ` John Hubbard
2020-11-07 19:05 ` Song Bao Hua (Barry Song)
2020-11-07 19:16 ` John Hubbard
2020-11-07 22:20 ` Randy Dunlap [this message]
2020-11-08 0:03 ` John Hubbard
2020-11-08 0:24 ` Randy Dunlap
2020-11-08 1:10 ` John Hubbard
2020-11-08 2:58 ` Song Bao Hua (Barry Song)
2020-11-08 3:14 ` John Hubbard
2020-11-08 3:22 ` John Hubbard
2020-11-08 4:11 ` Randy Dunlap
2020-11-08 4:34 ` Song Bao Hua (Barry Song)
2020-11-08 4:55 ` John Hubbard
2020-11-08 7:35 ` Song Bao Hua (Barry Song)
2020-11-08 7:53 ` John Hubbard
2020-11-08 4:05 ` Song Bao Hua (Barry Song)
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