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From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Oscar Salvador <osalvador@suse.de>
Cc: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
	Anshuman Khandual <anshuman.khandual@arm.com>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	Pavel Tatashin <pasha.tatashin@soleen.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: Memory hotplug locking issue: Useless (?) zone span seqlock
Date: Thu, 8 May 2025 12:45:01 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a5cde237-0dcf-4e85-b763-7a38e9f9c563@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b3acfb1e-2d7a-42ef-9705-bf0b20a0d152@efficios.com>

On 07.03.25 21:22, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
> I'm currently perfecting my understanding of the mm code and reviewing
> pieces of it as I go, and stumbled on this:
> 
> commit 27cacaad16c5 ("mm,memory_hotplug: drop unneeded locking")
> 
> This commit removes all users of zone_span_writelock(), thus making
> the inline useless, but leaves the now useless
> zone_span_seqbegin()/zone_span_seqretry() in place within
> page_outside_zone_boundaries().
> 
> So I'm confused. What's going on ?
> 
> And if this commit got things very wrong when removing the
> seqlock, I wonder if there are cases where its partial
> pgdat_resize_lock() removal can be an issue as well.

I stumbled over that myself recently as well. I think I mentioned in the 
past that we should just store

start_pfn + end_pfn

instead of

start_pfn + nr_pages


Then, concurrent resizing could happen (and we could atomically read 
start_pfn / end_pfn).

Right now, when adjusting start_pfn, we always also have to adjust 
nr_pages. A concurrent reader calculating end_pfn manually could see 
some crappy result.

Having that said, I am not aware of issues in that area, but it all 
looks like only a partial cleanup to me.

-- 
Cheers,

David / dhildenb



  reply	other threads:[~2025-05-08 10:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-03-07 20:22 Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-05-08 10:45 ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2025-05-08 13:11   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-05-09  9:38     ` David Hildenbrand

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