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From: John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>
To: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Cc: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	Cong Wang <xiyou.wangcong@gmail.com>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>, Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
	Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>,
	Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky@gmail.com>,
	"yuwang.yuwang" <yuwang.yuwang@alibaba-inc.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>,
	Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] printk: Add console owner and waiter logic to load balance console writes
Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2017 14:46:56 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a53b5ca3-507d-87f4-ce31-175e848259b6@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20171103075404.14f9058a@vmware.local.home>

On 11/03/2017 04:54 AM, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> On Fri, 3 Nov 2017 07:21:21 -0400
> Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org> wrote:
> 
>> On Thu, 2 Nov 2017 21:09:32 -0700
>> John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com> wrote:
>>
> 
>  > 
>>> For example, if there are 3 or more threads, you can do the following:
>>>
>>> thread A: holds the console lock, is printing, then moves into the console_unlock
>>>           phase
>>>
>>> thread B: goes into the waiter spin loop above, and (once the polarity is corrected)
>>>           waits for console_waiter to become 0
>>>
>>> thread A: finishing up, sets console_waiter --> 0
>>>
>>> thread C: before thread B notices, thread C goes into the "else" section, sees that
>>>           console_waiter == 0, and sets console_waiter --> 1. So thread C now
>>>           becomes the waiter  
>>
>> But console_waiter only gets set to 1 if console_waiter is 0 *and*
>> console_owner is not NULL and is not current. console_owner is only
>> updated under a spin lock and console_waiter is only set under a spin
>> lock when console_owner is not NULL.
>>
>> This means this scenario can not happen.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> thread B: gets *very* unlucky and never sees the 1 --> 0 --> 1 transition of
>>>           console_waiter, so it continues waiting.  And now we have both B
>>>           and C in the same spin loop, and this is now broken.
>>>
>>> At the root, this is really due to the absence of a pre-existing "hand-off this lock"
>>> mechanism. And this one here is not quite correct.
>>>
>>> Solution ideas: for a true hand-off, there needs to be a bit more information
>>> exchanged. Conceptually, a (lock-protected) list of waiters (which would 
>>> only ever have zero or one entries) is a good way to start thinking about it.  
>>
>> As stated above, the console owner check will prevent this issue.
>>
> 
> I'll condense the patch to show what I mean:
> 
> To become a waiter, a task must do the following:
> 
> +			printk_safe_enter_irqsave(flags);
> +
> +			raw_spin_lock(&console_owner_lock);
> +			owner = READ_ONCE(console_owner);
> +			waiter = READ_ONCE(console_waiter);
> +			if (!waiter && owner && owner != current) {
> +				WRITE_ONCE(console_waiter, true);
> +				spin = true;
> +			}
> +			raw_spin_unlock(&console_owner_lock);
> 
> 
> The new waiter gets set only if there isn't already a waiter *and*
> there is an owner that is not current (and with the printk_safe_enter I
> don't think that is even needed).
> 
> +				while (!READ_ONCE(console_waiter))
> +					cpu_relax();
> 
> The spin is outside the spin lock. But only the owner can clear it.
> 
> Now the owner is doing a loop of this (with interrupts disabled)
> 
> +		raw_spin_lock(&console_owner_lock);
> +		console_owner = current;
> +		raw_spin_unlock(&console_owner_lock);
> 
> Write to consoles.
> 
> +		raw_spin_lock(&console_owner_lock);
> +		waiter = READ_ONCE(console_waiter);
> +		console_owner = NULL;
> +		raw_spin_unlock(&console_owner_lock);
> 
> +		if (waiter)
> +			break;
> 
> At this moment console_owner is NULL, and no new waiters can happen.
> The next owner will be the waiter that is spinning.
> 
> +	if (waiter) {
> +		WRITE_ONCE(console_waiter, false);
> 
> There is no possibility of another task sneaking in and becoming a
> waiter at this moment. The console_owner was cleared under spin lock,
> and a waiter is only set under the same spin lock if owner is set.
> There will be no new owner sneaking in because to become the owner, you
> must have the console lock. Since it is never released between the time
> the owner clears console_waiter and the waiter takes the console lock,
> there is no race.

Yes, you are right of course. That does close the window. Sorry about
missing that point.

I'll try to quickly put together a small patch on top of this, that
shows a simplification, to just use an atomic compare and swap between a
global atomic value, and a local (on the stack) flag value, just in
case that is of interest.

thanks
john h

> 
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-11-03 21:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-11-02 17:45 Steven Rostedt
2017-11-02 22:16 ` Vlastimil Babka
2017-11-03  3:15   ` Steven Rostedt
2017-11-04  3:13     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-11-03  4:09   ` John Hubbard
2017-11-03 11:21     ` Steven Rostedt
2017-11-03 11:54       ` Steven Rostedt
2017-11-03 11:54         ` Steven Rostedt
2017-11-03 21:46         ` John Hubbard [this message]
2017-11-04  3:34           ` John Hubbard
2017-11-04  8:32             ` [PATCH v3] printk: Add console owner and waiter logic to loadbalance " Tetsuo Handa
2017-11-04  8:43               ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-11-06 12:06 ` [PATCH v3] printk: Add console owner and waiter logic to load balance " Tetsuo Handa
2017-11-07  1:40   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-11-07 11:05     ` [PATCH v3] printk: Add console owner and waiter logic to loadbalance " Tetsuo Handa
2017-11-08  5:19     ` [PATCH v3] printk: Add console owner and waiter logic to load balance " Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-11-08 14:29       ` Steven Rostedt
2017-11-09  0:56         ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-11-09  3:29           ` Steven Rostedt
2017-11-09  4:45             ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-11-09  5:06               ` Steven Rostedt
2017-11-09  5:33                 ` Sergey Senozhatsky

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