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From: John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>
To: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	"Darrick J . Wong" <djwong@kernel.org>,
	Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@hammerspace.com>,
	Anna Schumaker <anna@kernel.org>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	Logan Gunthorpe <logang@deltatee.com>,
	linux-block@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/6] mm/gup: introduce pin_user_page()
Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2022 12:33:13 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a47eef63-0f29-2185-f044-854ffaefae9c@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <10a9d33a-58a3-10b3-690b-53100d4e5440@redhat.com>

On 8/29/22 05:07, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>> +/**
>> + * pin_user_page() - apply a FOLL_PIN reference to a page
>> + *
>> + * @page: the page to be pinned.
>> + *
>> + * This is similar to get_user_pages(), except that the page's refcount is
>> + * elevated using FOLL_PIN, instead of FOLL_GET.

Actually, my commit log has a more useful documentation of this routine,
and given the questions below, I think I'll change to that:

 * pin_user_page() is an externally-usable version of try_grab_page(), but with
 * semantics that match get_page(), so that it can act as a drop-in replacement
 * for get_page().
 *
 * pin_user_page() elevates a page's refcount using FOLL_PIN rules. This means
 * that the caller must release the page via unpin_user_page().


>> + *
>> + * IMPORTANT: The caller must release the page via unpin_user_page().
>> + *
>> + */
>> +void pin_user_page(struct page *page)
>> +{
>> +	struct folio *folio = page_folio(page);
>> +
>> +	WARN_ON_ONCE(folio_ref_count(folio) <= 0);
>> +
> 
> We should warn if the page is anon and !exclusive.

That would be sort of OK, because pin_user_page() is being created
specifically for file system (O_DIRECT cases) use, and so the pages
should mostly be file-backed, rather than anon. Although I'm a little
vague about whether all of these iov_iter cases are really always
file-backed pages, especially for cases such as splice(2) to an
O_DIRECT-opened file, that Al Viro mentioned [1].

Can you walk me through the reasoning for why we need to keep out
anon shared pages? 

> 
> I assume the intend is to use pin_user_page() only to duplicate pins, right?
> 

Well, yes or no, depending on your use of the term "pin":

pin_user_page() is used on a page that already has a refcount >= 1 (so
no worries about speculative pinning should apply here), but the page
does not necessarily have any FOLL_PIN's applied to it yet (so it's not
"pinned" in the FOLL_PIN sense).


[1] https://lore.kernel.org/all/Ywq5VrSrY341UVpL@ZenIV/


thanks,

-- 
John Hubbard
NVIDIA


  reply	other threads:[~2022-08-29 19:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-08-27  8:36 [PATCH 0/6] convert most filesystems to pin_user_pages_fast() John Hubbard
2022-08-27  8:36 ` [PATCH 1/6] mm/gup: introduce pin_user_page() John Hubbard
2022-08-29 12:07   ` David Hildenbrand
2022-08-29 19:33     ` John Hubbard [this message]
2022-08-30 12:17       ` David Hildenbrand
2022-08-30 21:42         ` John Hubbard
2022-08-31  0:06         ` John Hubbard
2022-08-27  8:36 ` [PATCH 2/6] block: add dio_w_*() wrappers for pin, unpin user pages John Hubbard
2022-08-27 22:27   ` Andrew Morton
2022-08-27 23:59     ` John Hubbard
2022-08-28  0:12       ` Andrew Morton
2022-08-28  0:31         ` John Hubbard
2022-08-28  1:07           ` John Hubbard
2022-08-27  8:36 ` [PATCH 3/6] iov_iter: new iov_iter_pin_pages*() routines John Hubbard
2022-08-27 22:46   ` Al Viro
2022-08-27 22:48     ` John Hubbard
2022-08-27  8:36 ` [PATCH 4/6] block, bio, fs: convert most filesystems to pin_user_pages_fast() John Hubbard
2022-08-27  8:36 ` [PATCH 5/6] NFS: direct-io: convert to FOLL_PIN pages John Hubbard
2022-08-27 22:48   ` Al Viro
2022-08-27 23:55     ` John Hubbard
2022-08-28  0:38       ` Al Viro
2022-08-28  0:39         ` Al Viro
2022-08-28  0:46           ` John Hubbard
2022-08-29  4:59           ` John Hubbard
2022-08-29 16:08             ` Jan Kara
2022-08-29 19:59               ` John Hubbard
2022-08-31  9:43                 ` Jan Kara
2022-08-31 18:02                   ` John Hubbard
2022-09-01  0:38                   ` Al Viro
2022-09-01  9:06                     ` Jan Kara
2022-08-27  8:36 ` [PATCH 6/6] fuse: convert direct IO paths to use FOLL_PIN John Hubbard
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2022-02-27  9:34 [PATCH 0/6] block, fs: convert most Direct IO cases to FOLL_PIN jhubbard.send.patches
2022-02-27  9:34 ` [PATCH 1/6] mm/gup: introduce pin_user_page() jhubbard.send.patches

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