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From: Alejandro Colomar <alx@kernel.org>
To: Alexander Potapenko <glider@google.com>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-hardening@vger.kernel.org,
	 Kees Cook <kees@kernel.org>,
	Christopher Bazley <chris.bazley.wg14@gmail.com>,
	 shadow <~hallyn/shadow@lists.sr.ht>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	 Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	kasan-dev@googlegroups.com, Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@google.com>,
	 Marco Elver <elver@google.com>, Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>,
	 David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	 Roman Gushchin <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>,
	Harry Yoo <harry.yoo@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC v1 1/3] vsprintf: Add [v]seprintf(), [v]stprintf()
Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2025 16:59:32 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a3f7i56s5fmg2kcc2j2yledsyxfgepvf62jquqhjzckvg2ojwp@nokqxjgqpman> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAG_fn=UG3O-3_ik0TY_kstxzMVh4Z9noTP1cYfAiWvCnaXQ-6A@mail.gmail.com>

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Hi Alexander,

On Mon, Jul 07, 2025 at 11:47:43AM +0200, Alexander Potapenko wrote:
> > +/**
> > + * vseprintf - Format a string and place it in a buffer
> > + * @p: The buffer to place the result into
> > + * @end: A pointer to one past the last character in the buffer
> > + * @fmt: The format string to use
> > + * @args: Arguments for the format string
> > + *
> > + * The return value is a pointer to the trailing '\0'.
> > + * If @p is NULL, the function returns NULL.
> > + * If the string is truncated, the function returns NULL.
> > + *
> > + * If you're not already dealing with a va_list consider using seprintf().
> > + *
> > + * See the vsnprintf() documentation for format string extensions over C99.
> > + */
> > +char *vseprintf(char *p, const char end[0], const char *fmt, va_list args)
> > +{
> > +       int len;
> > +
> > +       if (unlikely(p == NULL))
> > +               return NULL;
> > +
> > +       len = vstprintf(p, end - p, fmt, args);
> 
> It's easy to imagine a situation in which `end` is calculated from the
> user input and may overflow.
> Maybe we can add a check for `end > p` to be on the safe side?

That would technically be already UB at the moment you hold the 'end'
pointer, so the verification should in theory happen much earlier.

However, if we've arrived here with an overflown 'end', the safety is in
vsnprintf(), which has

        /* Reject out-of-range values early.  Large positive sizes are
           used for unknown buffer sizes. */
        if (WARN_ON_ONCE(size > INT_MAX))
                return 0;

The sequence is:

-  vseprintf() calls vstprintf() where end-p => size.
-  vstprintf() calls vsnprintf() with size.
-  vsnprintf() would return 0, and the contents of the string are
   undefined, as we haven't written anything.  It's not even truncated.

Which, indeed, doesn't sound like a safety.  We've reported a successful
copy of 0 bytes, but we actually failed.

Which BTW is a reminder that this implementation of vsnprintf() seems
dangerous to me, and not conforming to the standard vsnprintf(3).

Maybe we should do the check in vstprintf() and report an error as
-E2BIG (which is later translated into NULL by vseprintf()).  This is
what sized_strscpy() does, so sounds reasonable.  I'll add this test.

Thanks!


Have a lovely day!
Alex

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  reply	other threads:[~2025-07-07 14:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 98+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-07-05 20:33 [RFC v1 0/3] Add and use seprintf() instead of less ergonomic APIs Alejandro Colomar
2025-07-05 20:33 ` [RFC v1 1/3] vsprintf: Add [v]seprintf(), [v]stprintf() Alejandro Colomar
2025-07-05 20:40   ` Alejandro Colomar
2025-07-07  9:47   ` Alexander Potapenko
2025-07-07 14:59     ` Alejandro Colomar [this message]
2025-07-05 20:33 ` [RFC v1 2/3] stacktrace, stackdepot: Add seprintf()-like variants of functions Alejandro Colomar
2025-07-05 20:33 ` [RFC v1 3/3] mm: Use seprintf() instead of less ergonomic APIs Alejandro Colomar
2025-07-05 21:54   ` Alejandro Colomar
2025-07-06 17:37 ` [RFC v2 0/5] Add and use " Alejandro Colomar
2025-07-06 17:37   ` [RFC v2 1/5] vsprintf: Add [v]seprintf(), [v]stprintf() Alejandro Colomar
2025-07-06 17:37   ` [RFC v2 2/5] stacktrace, stackdepot: Add seprintf()-like variants of functions Alejandro Colomar
2025-07-06 17:37   ` [RFC v2 3/5] mm: Use seprintf() instead of less ergonomic APIs Alejandro Colomar
2025-07-06 17:37   ` [RFC v2 4/5] array_size.h: Add ENDOF() Alejandro Colomar
2025-07-06 17:37   ` [RFC v2 5/5] mm: Fix benign off-by-one bugs Alejandro Colomar
2025-07-07  5:06   ` [RFC v3 0/7] Add and use seprintf() instead of less ergonomic APIs Alejandro Colomar
2025-07-07  5:06     ` [RFC v3 1/7] vsprintf: Add [v]seprintf(), [v]stprintf() Alejandro Colomar
2025-07-07  5:06     ` [RFC v3 2/7] stacktrace, stackdepot: Add seprintf()-like variants of functions Alejandro Colomar
2025-07-07  5:06     ` [RFC v3 3/7] mm: Use seprintf() instead of less ergonomic APIs Alejandro Colomar
2025-07-07  7:44       ` Marco Elver
2025-07-07 14:39         ` Alejandro Colomar
2025-07-07 14:58           ` Marco Elver
2025-07-07 18:51             ` Alejandro Colomar
2025-07-07 19:08               ` Marco Elver
2025-07-07 20:53                 ` Alejandro Colomar
2025-07-07 19:17       ` Linus Torvalds
2025-07-07 19:35         ` Al Viro
2025-07-07 20:46           ` Linus Torvalds
2025-07-07 20:29         ` Alejandro Colomar
2025-07-07 20:49           ` Linus Torvalds
2025-07-07 21:05             ` Alejandro Colomar
2025-07-07 21:26               ` Alejandro Colomar
2025-07-07 22:17                 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-07-08  2:20                   ` Alejandro Colomar
2025-07-12 20:58         ` Christopher Bazley
2025-07-14  7:57           ` Christopher Bazley
2025-07-07  5:06     ` [RFC v3 4/7] array_size.h: Add ENDOF() Alejandro Colomar
2025-07-07  5:06     ` [RFC v3 5/7] mm: Fix benign off-by-one bugs Alejandro Colomar
2025-07-07  7:46       ` Marco Elver
2025-07-07  7:53         ` Michal Hocko
2025-07-07 14:42           ` Alejandro Colomar
2025-07-07 15:12             ` Michal Hocko
2025-07-07 15:29               ` Alejandro Colomar
2025-07-07  5:06     ` [RFC v3 6/7] sprintf: Add [V]STPRINTF() Alejandro Colomar
2025-07-07  5:06     ` [RFC v3 7/7] mm: Use [V]STPRINTF() to avoid specifying the array size Alejandro Colomar
2025-07-07  5:11     ` [RFC v3 0/7] Add and use seprintf() instead of less ergonomic APIs Alejandro Colomar
2025-07-10  2:47   ` [RFC v4 0/7] Add and use sprintf_end() " Alejandro Colomar
2025-07-10  2:47     ` alx-0049r2 - add seprintf() Alejandro Colomar
2025-07-10  2:48     ` [RFC v4 1/7] vsprintf: Add [v]sprintf_end() Alejandro Colomar
2025-07-10  2:48     ` [RFC v4 2/7] stacktrace, stackdepot: Add sprintf_end()-like variants of functions Alejandro Colomar
2025-07-10  2:48     ` [RFC v4 3/7] mm: Use sprintf_end() instead of less ergonomic APIs Alejandro Colomar
2025-07-10  2:48     ` [RFC v4 4/7] array_size.h: Add ENDOF() Alejandro Colomar
2025-07-10  2:48     ` [RFC v4 5/7] mm: Fix benign off-by-one bugs Alejandro Colomar
2025-07-10  2:48     ` [RFC v4 6/7] sprintf: Add [V]SPRINTF_END() Alejandro Colomar
2025-07-10 15:52       ` Linus Torvalds
2025-07-10 18:30         ` Alejandro Colomar
2025-07-10 21:21           ` Alejandro Colomar
2025-07-10 22:08             ` Linus Torvalds
2025-07-10  2:49     ` [RFC v4 7/7] mm: Use [V]SPRINTF_END() to avoid specifying the array size Alejandro Colomar
2025-07-10 21:30   ` [RFC v5 0/7] Add and use sprintf_{end,array}() instead of less ergonomic APIs Alejandro Colomar
2025-07-10 21:30     ` [RFC v5 1/7] vsprintf: Add [v]sprintf_end() Alejandro Colomar
2025-07-10 21:30     ` [RFC v5 2/7] stacktrace, stackdepot: Add sprintf_end()-like variants of functions Alejandro Colomar
2025-07-10 21:30     ` [RFC v5 3/7] mm: Use sprintf_end() instead of less ergonomic APIs Alejandro Colomar
2025-07-10 21:31     ` [RFC v5 4/7] array_size.h: Add ENDOF() Alejandro Colomar
2025-07-10 21:31     ` [RFC v5 5/7] mm: Fix benign off-by-one bugs Alejandro Colomar
2025-07-10 21:31     ` [RFC v5 6/7] sprintf: Add [v]sprintf_array() Alejandro Colomar
2025-07-10 21:58       ` Linus Torvalds
2025-07-10 23:23         ` Alejandro Colomar
2025-07-10 23:24           ` Alejandro Colomar
2025-07-11  0:19           ` Alejandro Colomar
2025-07-11 17:43           ` David Laight
2025-07-11 19:17             ` Alejandro Colomar
2025-07-11 19:21               ` Alejandro Colomar
2025-07-11  6:05         ` Martin Uecker
2025-07-11  6:19           ` Martin Uecker
2025-07-11 17:45           ` David Laight
2025-07-11 17:58             ` Linus Torvalds
2025-07-11 19:24               ` Matthew Wilcox
2025-07-15  5:19               ` Kees Cook
2025-07-15  6:24                 ` Martin Uecker
2025-07-17 23:44                   ` Kees Cook
2025-07-15  7:08                 ` Alejandro Colomar
2025-07-17 23:47                   ` Kees Cook
2025-07-18  0:56                     ` Alejandro Colomar
2025-07-11 18:01             ` Martin Uecker
2025-07-10 21:31     ` [RFC v5 7/7] mm: Use [v]sprintf_array() to avoid specifying the array size Alejandro Colomar
2025-07-11  1:56   ` [RFC v6 0/8] Add and use sprintf_{end,trunc,array}() instead of less ergonomic APIs Alejandro Colomar
2025-07-11  1:56     ` [RFC v6 1/8] vsprintf: Add [v]sprintf_trunc() Alejandro Colomar
2025-07-11  1:56     ` [RFC v6 2/8] vsprintf: Add [v]sprintf_end() Alejandro Colomar
2025-07-11  1:56     ` [RFC v6 3/8] sprintf: Add [v]sprintf_array() Alejandro Colomar
2025-07-11  1:56     ` [RFC v6 4/8] stacktrace, stackdepot: Add sprintf_end()-like variants of functions Alejandro Colomar
2025-07-11  1:57     ` [RFC v6 5/8] mm: Use sprintf_end() instead of less ergonomic APIs Alejandro Colomar
2025-07-11  1:57     ` [RFC v6 6/8] array_size.h: Add ENDOF() Alejandro Colomar
2025-07-11  1:57     ` [RFC v6 7/8] mm: Fix benign off-by-one bugs Alejandro Colomar
2025-07-11  1:57     ` [RFC v6 8/8] mm: Use [v]sprintf_array() to avoid specifying the array size Alejandro Colomar
2025-07-08  6:43 ` [RFC v1 0/3] Add and use seprintf() instead of less ergonomic APIs Rasmus Villemoes
2025-07-08 11:36   ` Alejandro Colomar
2025-07-08 13:51     ` Rasmus Villemoes
2025-07-08 16:14       ` Alejandro Colomar

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