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From: Felix Kuehling <felix.kuehling@amd.com>
To: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
	Alex Sierra <alex.sierra@amd.com>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	rcampbell@nvidia.com, linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org
Cc: amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
	hch@lst.de, jgg@nvidia.com, jglisse@redhat.com,
	apopple@nvidia.com, willy@infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 01/10] mm: add zone device coherent type memory support
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2022 12:07:11 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a24d82d9-daf9-fa1a-8b9d-5db7fe10655e@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f2af73c1-396b-168f-7f86-eb10b3b68a26@redhat.com>


Am 2022-02-11 um 11:39 schrieb David Hildenbrand:
> On 11.02.22 17:15, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>> On 01.02.22 16:48, Alex Sierra wrote:
>>> Device memory that is cache coherent from device and CPU point of view.
>>> This is used on platforms that have an advanced system bus (like CAPI
>>> or CXL). Any page of a process can be migrated to such memory. However,
>>> no one should be allowed to pin such memory so that it can always be
>>> evicted.
>>>
>>> Signed-off-by: Alex Sierra <alex.sierra@amd.com>
>>> Acked-by: Felix Kuehling <Felix.Kuehling@amd.com>
>>> Reviewed-by: Alistair Popple <apopple@nvidia.com>
>> So, I'm currently messing with PageAnon() pages and CoW semantics ...
>> all these PageAnon() ZONE_DEVICE variants don't necessarily make my life
>> easier but I'm not sure yet if they make my life harder. I hope you can
>> help me understand some of that stuff.
>>
>> 1) What are expected CoW semantics for DEVICE_COHERENT?
>>
>> I assume we'll share them just like other PageAnon() pages during fork()
>> readable, and the first sharer writing to them receives an "ordinary"
>> !ZONE_DEVICE copy.
>>
>> So this would be just like DEVICE_EXCLUSIVE CoW handling I assume, just
>> that we don't have to go through the loop of restoring a device
>> exclusive entry?
>>
>> 2) How are these pages freed to clear/invalidate PageAnon() ?
>>
>> I assume for PageAnon() ZONE_DEVICE pages we'll always for via
>> free_devmap_managed_page(), correct?
>>
>>
>> 3) FOLL_PIN
>>
>> While you write "no one should be allowed to pin such memory", patch #2
>> only blocks FOLL_LONGTERM. So I assume we allow ordinary FOLL_PIN and
>> you might want to be a bit more precise?
>>
>>
>> ... I'm pretty sure we cannot FOLL_PIN DEVICE_PRIVATE pages, but can we
>> FILL_PIN DEVICE_EXCLUSIVE pages? I strongly assume so?
>>
>>
>> Thanks for any information.
>>
> (digging a bit more, I realized that device exclusive pages are not
> actually/necessarily ZONE_DEVICE pages -- so I assume DEVICE_COHERENT
> will be the actual first PageAnon() ZONE_DEVICE pages that can be
> present in a page table.)

I think DEVICE_GENERIC pages can also be mapped in the page table. In 
fact, the first version of our patches attempted to add migration 
support to DEVICE_GENERIC. But we were convinced to create a new 
ZONE_DEVICE page type for our use case instead.

Regards,
   Felix


>


  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-02-11 17:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-02-01 15:48 [PATCH v6 00/10] Add MEMORY_DEVICE_COHERENT for coherent device memory mapping Alex Sierra
2022-02-01 15:48 ` [PATCH v6 01/10] mm: add zone device coherent type memory support Alex Sierra
2022-02-11 16:15   ` David Hildenbrand
2022-02-11 16:39     ` David Hildenbrand
2022-02-11 16:52       ` Sierra Guiza, Alejandro (Alex)
2022-02-11 17:07       ` Felix Kuehling [this message]
2022-02-15 12:16         ` David Hildenbrand
2022-02-15 14:45           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-02-15 18:32             ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-02-15 19:41               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-02-15 21:35                 ` Felix Kuehling
2022-02-15 21:47                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-02-15 22:49                     ` Felix Kuehling
2022-02-16  2:01                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-02-16 16:56                         ` Felix Kuehling
2022-02-16 17:28                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-02-16  1:23                     ` Alistair Popple
2022-02-16  2:03                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-02-16  2:36                         ` Alistair Popple
2022-02-16  8:31                           ` David Hildenbrand
2022-02-16 12:26                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-02-17  1:05                               ` Alistair Popple
2022-02-17 21:12                               ` Felix Kuehling
2022-02-18  0:19                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-02-18 19:20                                   ` Felix Kuehling
2022-02-18 19:26                                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-02-18 19:37                                       ` Felix Kuehling
2022-02-28 20:34                                       ` [PATCH] mm: split vm_normal_pages for LRU and non-LRU handling Alex Sierra
2022-02-28 22:41                                         ` Felix Kuehling
2022-03-01  8:03                                         ` David Hildenbrand
2022-03-01 16:08                                           ` Felix Kuehling
2022-03-01 16:22                                             ` David Hildenbrand
2022-03-01 16:30                                               ` Felix Kuehling
2022-03-01 16:32                                                 ` David Hildenbrand
2022-02-18  0:59                                 ` [PATCH v6 01/10] mm: add zone device coherent type memory support Alistair Popple
2022-02-11 16:45     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-02-11 16:49       ` David Hildenbrand
2022-02-11 16:56         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-02-15 12:15           ` David Hildenbrand
2022-02-15 18:52             ` Felix Kuehling
2022-02-11 17:05     ` Felix Kuehling
2022-02-14  2:04       ` Alistair Popple
2022-02-01 15:48 ` [PATCH v6 02/10] mm: add device coherent vma selection for memory migration Alex Sierra
2022-02-01 15:48 ` [PATCH v6 03/10] mm/gup: fail get_user_pages for LONGTERM dev coherent type Alex Sierra
2022-02-01 15:48 ` [PATCH v6 04/10] drm/amdkfd: add SPM support for SVM Alex Sierra
2022-02-01 15:48 ` [PATCH v6 05/10] drm/amdkfd: coherent type as sys mem on migration to ram Alex Sierra
2022-02-01 15:48 ` [PATCH v6 06/10] lib: test_hmm add ioctl to get zone device type Alex Sierra
2022-02-01 15:48 ` [PATCH v6 07/10] lib: test_hmm add module param for " Alex Sierra
2022-02-01 15:48 ` [PATCH v6 08/10] lib: add support for device coherent type in test_hmm Alex Sierra
2022-02-01 15:49 ` [PATCH v6 09/10] tools: update hmm-test to support device coherent type Alex Sierra
2022-02-01 15:49 ` [PATCH v6 10/10] tools: update test_hmm script to support SP config Alex Sierra

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