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From: Kim Phillips <kim.phillips@amd.com>
To: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
	Michael Roth <michael.roth@amd.com>, <kvm@vger.kernel.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC v9 08/51] x86/speculation: Do not enable Automatic IBRS if SEV SNP is enabled
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2023 14:11:16 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a11ba4c9-8f6f-c231-c480-e2f25b8132b8@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <396d0e29-defc-e207-2cbd-fe7137e798ad@intel.com>

On 7/18/23 6:17 PM, Dave Hansen wrote:
> On 7/18/23 15:34, Kim Phillips wrote:
> ...
>> Automatic IBRS provides protection to [1]:
>>
>>   - Processes running at CPL=0
>>   - Processes running as host when Secure Nested Paging (SEV-SNP) is enabled
>>
>> i.e.,
>>
>>      (CPL < 3) || ((ASID == 0) && SNP)
>>
>> Because of this limitation, do not enable Automatic IBRS when SNP is
>> enabled.
> 
> Gah, I found that hard to parse.  I think it's because you're talking
> about an SEV-SNP host in one part and "SNP" in the other but _meaning_
> SNP host and SNP guest.
> 
> Could I maybe suggest that you folks follow the TDX convention and
> actually add _GUEST and _HOST to the feature name be explicit about
> which side is which?
> 
>> Instead, fall back to retpolines.
> 
> Now I'm totally lost.
> 
> This is talking about falling back to retpolines ... in the kernel.  But
> "Automatic IBRS provides protection to ... CPL < 3", aka. the kernel.
> 
>> Note that the AutoIBRS feature may continue to be used within the
>> guest.
> 
> What is this trying to say?
> 
> "AutoIBRS can still be used in a guest since it protects CPL < 3"
> 
> or
> 
> "The AutoIBRS bits can still be twiddled within the guest even though it
> doesn't do any good"
> 
> ?

Hopefully the commit text in this version will help answer all your
questions?:

 From 96dbd72d018287bc5b72f6083884e2125c9d09bc Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Kim Phillips <kim.phillips@amd.com>
Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2023 14:08:15 -0500
Subject: [PATCH] x86/speculation: Do not enable Automatic IBRS if SEV SNP is
  enabled

Automatic IBRS provides protection to [1]:

  - Processes running at CPL=0
  - Processes running as host when Secure Nested Paging (SEV-SNP) is enabled

I.e., from the host side (ASID=0, based on host EFER.AutoIBRS)
If SYSCFG[SNPEn]=0 then:
      IBRS is enabled for supervisor mode (CPL < 3) only

If SYSCFG[SNPEn]=1 then:
      IBRS is enabled at all CPLs

 From the guest side (ASID!=0, based on guest EFER.AutoIBRS)
      IBRS is enabled for supervisor mode (CPL < 3)

Therefore, don't enable Automatic IBRS in host mode if SNP is enabled,
because it will penalize user-mode indirect branch performance.  Have
the kernel fall back to retpolines instead.

Note that the AutoIBRS feature may continue to be used within guests,
where ASID != 0.

[1] "AMD64 Architecture Programmer's Manual Volume 2: System Programming",
     Pub. 24593, rev. 3.41, June 2023, Part 1, Section 3.1.7 "Extended
     Feature Enable Register (EFER)" - accessible via Link.

Link: https://bugzilla.kernel.org/attachment.cgi?id=304652
Signed-off-by: Kim Phillips <kim.phillips@amd.com>
---
  arch/x86/kernel/cpu/common.c | 3 ++-
  1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)

diff --git a/arch/x86/kernel/cpu/common.c b/arch/x86/kernel/cpu/common.c
index 8cd4126d8253..311c0a6422b5 100644
--- a/arch/x86/kernel/cpu/common.c
+++ b/arch/x86/kernel/cpu/common.c
@@ -1348,7 +1348,8 @@ static void __init cpu_set_bug_bits(struct cpuinfo_x86 *c)
  	 * AMD's AutoIBRS is equivalent to Intel's eIBRS - use the Intel feature
  	 * flag and protect from vendor-specific bugs via the whitelist.
  	 */
-	if ((ia32_cap & ARCH_CAP_IBRS_ALL) || cpu_has(c, X86_FEATURE_AUTOIBRS)) {
+	if ((ia32_cap & ARCH_CAP_IBRS_ALL) || (cpu_has(c, X86_FEATURE_AUTOIBRS) &&
+	    !cpu_feature_enabled(X86_FEATURE_SEV_SNP))) {
  		setup_force_cpu_cap(X86_FEATURE_IBRS_ENHANCED);
  		if (!cpu_matches(cpu_vuln_whitelist, NO_EIBRS_PBRSB) &&
  		    !(ia32_cap & ARCH_CAP_PBRSB_NO))
-- 
2.34.1


  reply	other threads:[~2023-07-20 19:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 102+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-06-12  4:25 [PATCH RFC v9 00/51] Add AMD Secure Nested Paging (SEV-SNP) Hypervisor Support Michael Roth
2023-06-12  4:25 ` [PATCH RFC v9 01/51] KVM: x86: Add gmem hook for initializing private memory Michael Roth
2023-06-12  4:25 ` [PATCH RFC v9 02/51] KVM: x86: Add gmem hook for invalidating " Michael Roth
2023-06-12 10:49   ` Borislav Petkov
2023-06-19 13:39     ` Borislav Petkov
2023-06-12  4:25 ` [PATCH RFC v9 03/51] KVM: x86: Use full 64-bit error code for kvm_mmu_do_page_fault Michael Roth
2023-06-14 14:24   ` Isaku Yamahata
2023-06-12  4:25 ` [PATCH RFC v9 04/51] KVM: x86: Determine shared/private faults using a configurable mask Michael Roth
2023-06-14 16:47   ` Isaku Yamahata
2023-06-20 20:28     ` Michael Roth
2023-06-20 21:18       ` Isaku Yamahata
2023-06-21 23:00         ` Michael Roth
2023-06-22  8:01           ` Isaku Yamahata
2023-06-22  9:55           ` Huang, Kai
2023-06-22 15:32             ` Michael Roth
2023-06-22 22:31               ` Huang, Kai
2023-06-22 23:39                 ` Isaku Yamahata
2023-06-22 23:52                   ` Huang, Kai
2023-06-23 14:43                     ` Isaku Yamahata
2023-06-19 16:27   ` Borislav Petkov
2023-06-20 20:36     ` Michael Roth
2023-06-12  4:25 ` [PATCH RFC v9 05/51] x86/coco: move CONFIG_HAS_CC_PLATFORM check down into coco/Makefile Michael Roth
2023-06-12  7:07   ` Kirill A . Shutemov
2023-06-20 12:09   ` Borislav Petkov
2023-06-20 20:43     ` Michael Roth
2023-06-21  8:54       ` Borislav Petkov
2023-06-29 21:02         ` Michael Roth
2023-07-10  3:05   ` Sathyanarayanan Kuppuswamy
2023-07-10 13:11     ` Tom Lendacky
2023-06-12  4:25 ` [PATCH RFC v9 06/51] x86/cpufeatures: Add SEV-SNP CPU feature Michael Roth
2023-06-12  4:25 ` [PATCH RFC v9 07/51] x86/sev: Add the host SEV-SNP initialization support Michael Roth
2023-06-12 15:34   ` Dave Hansen
2023-06-21  9:15     ` Borislav Petkov
2023-06-21 14:31       ` Dave Hansen
2023-06-21 15:59         ` Borislav Petkov
2023-06-21  9:42   ` Borislav Petkov
2023-06-21 14:36     ` Tom Lendacky
2023-06-21 19:15     ` Kalra, Ashish
2023-08-09 13:03   ` Jeremi Piotrowski
2023-06-12  4:25 ` [PATCH RFC v9 08/51] x86/speculation: Do not enable Automatic IBRS if SEV SNP is enabled Michael Roth
2023-06-12 15:39   ` Dave Hansen
2023-07-18 22:34     ` Kim Phillips
2023-07-18 23:17       ` Dave Hansen
2023-07-20 19:11         ` Kim Phillips [this message]
2023-07-20 22:24           ` Dave Hansen
2023-07-21 16:56             ` Kim Phillips
2023-06-12  4:25 ` [PATCH RFC v9 09/51] x86/sev: Add RMP entry lookup helpers Michael Roth
2023-06-12 16:08   ` Dave Hansen
2023-06-30 21:57     ` Michael Roth
2023-06-30 22:29       ` Dave Hansen
2023-06-12  4:25 ` [PATCH RFC v9 10/51] x86/fault: Add helper for dumping RMP entries Michael Roth
2023-06-12 16:12   ` Dave Hansen
2023-06-12  4:25 ` [PATCH RFC v9 11/51] x86/traps: Define RMP violation #PF error code Michael Roth
2023-06-12 16:26   ` Dave Hansen
2023-06-12  4:25 ` [PATCH RFC v9 12/51] x86/fault: Report RMP page faults for kernel addresses Michael Roth
2023-06-12 16:30   ` Dave Hansen
2023-06-12  4:25 ` [PATCH RFC v9 13/51] x86/fault: Handle RMP page faults for user addresses Michael Roth
2023-06-12 16:40   ` Dave Hansen
2023-06-12  4:25 ` [PATCH RFC v9 14/51] x86/sev: Add helper functions for RMPUPDATE and PSMASH instruction Michael Roth
2023-06-12 17:00   ` Dave Hansen
2023-06-12  4:25 ` [PATCH RFC v9 15/51] x86/sev: Invalidate pages from the direct map when adding them to the RMP table Michael Roth
2023-06-12  4:25 ` [PATCH RFC v9 16/51] crypto: ccp: Define the SEV-SNP commands Michael Roth
2023-06-12  4:25 ` [PATCH RFC v9 17/51] crypto: ccp: Add support to initialize the AMD-SP for SEV-SNP Michael Roth
2023-06-12  4:25 ` [PATCH RFC v9 18/51] crypto: ccp: Provide API to issue SEV and SNP commands Michael Roth
2023-06-12  4:25 ` [PATCH RFC v9 19/51] x86/sev: Introduce snp leaked pages list Michael Roth
2023-08-09 12:46   ` Jeremi Piotrowski
2023-06-12  4:25 ` [PATCH RFC v9 20/51] crypto: ccp: Handle the legacy TMR allocation when SNP is enabled Michael Roth
2023-06-12  4:25 ` [PATCH RFC v9 21/51] crypto: ccp: Handle the legacy SEV command " Michael Roth
2023-06-12  4:25 ` [PATCH RFC v9 22/51] crypto: ccp: Add the SNP_PLATFORM_STATUS command Michael Roth
2023-06-12  4:25 ` [PATCH RFC v9 23/51] KVM: SEV: Select CONFIG_KVM_PROTECTED_VM when CONFIG_KVM_AMD_SEV=y Michael Roth
2023-06-12  4:25 ` [PATCH RFC v9 24/51] KVM: SVM: Add support to handle AP reset MSR protocol Michael Roth
2023-06-12  4:25 ` [PATCH RFC v9 25/51] KVM: SVM: Add GHCB handling for Hypervisor Feature Support requests Michael Roth
2023-06-12  4:25 ` [PATCH RFC v9 26/51] KVM: SVM: Make AVIC backing, VMSA and VMCB memory allocation SNP safe Michael Roth
2023-06-12  4:25 ` [PATCH RFC v9 27/51] KVM: SVM: Add initial SEV-SNP support Michael Roth
2023-06-12  4:25 ` [PATCH RFC v9 28/51] KVM: SVM: Add KVM_SNP_INIT command Michael Roth
2023-06-12  4:25 ` [PATCH RFC v9 29/51] KVM: SVM: Add KVM_SEV_SNP_LAUNCH_START command Michael Roth
2023-06-12 17:08   ` Peter Gonda
2023-06-12  4:25 ` [PATCH RFC v9 30/51] KVM: Add HVA range operator Michael Roth
2023-06-12  4:25 ` [PATCH RFC v9 31/51] KVM: Split out memory attribute xarray updates to helper function Michael Roth
2023-06-12  4:25 ` [PATCH RFC v9 32/51] KVM: SVM: Add KVM_SEV_SNP_LAUNCH_UPDATE command Michael Roth
2023-06-12  4:25 ` [PATCH RFC v9 33/51] KVM: SVM: Add KVM_SEV_SNP_LAUNCH_FINISH command Michael Roth
2023-06-12  4:25 ` [PATCH RFC v9 34/51] KVM: SVM: Add support to handle GHCB GPA register VMGEXIT Michael Roth
2023-06-12  4:25 ` [PATCH RFC v9 35/51] KVM: SVM: Add KVM_EXIT_VMGEXIT Michael Roth
2023-06-12  4:25 ` [PATCH RFC v9 36/51] KVM: SVM: Add support to handle MSR based Page State Change VMGEXIT Michael Roth
2023-06-12  4:25 ` [PATCH RFC v9 37/51] KVM: SVM: Add support to handle " Michael Roth
2023-06-12  4:25 ` [PATCH RFC v9 38/51] KVM: x86: Export the kvm_zap_gfn_range() for the SNP use Michael Roth
2023-06-12  4:25 ` [PATCH RFC v9 39/51] KVM: x86: Define RMP page fault error bits for #NPF Michael Roth
2023-06-12  4:25 ` [PATCH RFC v9 40/51] KVM: SVM: Add support to handle RMP nested page faults Michael Roth
2023-06-12  4:25 ` [PATCH RFC v9 41/51] KVM: SVM: Use a VMSA physical address variable for populating VMCB Michael Roth
2023-06-12  4:25 ` [PATCH RFC v9 42/51] KVM: SVM: Support SEV-SNP AP Creation NAE event Michael Roth
2023-08-15 16:00   ` Peter Gonda
2023-06-12  4:25 ` [PATCH RFC v9 43/51] KVM: SEV: Configure MMU to check for private fault flags Michael Roth
2023-06-12  4:25 ` [PATCH RFC v9 44/51] KVM: SEV: Implement gmem hook for initializing private pages Michael Roth
2023-06-12  4:25 ` [PATCH RFC v9 45/51] KVM: SEV: Implement gmem hook for invalidating " Michael Roth
2023-06-12  4:25 ` [PATCH RFC v9 46/51] KVM: SVM: Add module parameter to enable the SEV-SNP Michael Roth
2023-06-12  4:25 ` [PATCH RFC v9 47/51] iommu/amd: Add IOMMU_SNP_SHUTDOWN support Michael Roth
2023-09-07 10:31   ` Suthikulpanit, Suravee
2023-06-12  4:25 ` [PATCH RFC v9 48/51] crypto: ccp: Add the SNP_{SET,GET}_EXT_CONFIG command Michael Roth
2023-06-13  6:24   ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2023-06-12  4:25 ` [PATCH RFC v9 49/51] x86/sev: Add KVM commands for per-instance certs Michael Roth
2023-06-12  4:25 ` [PATCH RFC v9 50/51] KVM: SVM: Provide support for SNP_GUEST_REQUEST NAE event Michael Roth
2023-06-12  4:25 ` [PATCH RFC v9 51/51] crypto: ccp: Add debug support for decrypting pages Michael Roth

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