From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: "Luck, Tony" <tony.luck@intel.com>
Cc: Kyle Meyer <kyle.meyer@hpe.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm/memory-failure: Disable soft offline for HugeTLB pages by default
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2025 09:53:02 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <a0e586dc-dce6-41a2-9607-f2f64b752df1@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aMMNVA9EXXHYvmKH@agluck-desk3>
On 11.09.25 19:56, Luck, Tony wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 11, 2025 at 10:46:10AM +0200, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>> On 10.09.25 18:15, Kyle Meyer wrote:
>>> Soft offlining a HugeTLB page reduces the available HugeTLB page pool.
>>> Since HugeTLB pages are preallocated, reducing the available HugeTLB
>>> page pool can cause allocation failures.
>>>
>>> /proc/sys/vm/enable_soft_offline provides a sysctl interface to
>>> disable/enable soft offline:
>>>
>>> 0 - Soft offline is disabled.
>>> 1 - Soft offline is enabled.
>>>
>>> The current sysctl interface does not distinguish between HugeTLB pages
>>> and other page types.
>>>
>>> Disable soft offline for HugeTLB pages by default (1) and extend the
>>> sysctl interface to preserve existing behavior (2):
>>>
>>> 0 - Soft offline is disabled.
>>> 1 - Soft offline is enabled (excluding HugeTLB pages).
>>> 2 - Soft offline is enabled (including HugeTLB pages).
>>>
>>> Update documentation for the sysctl interface, reference the sysctl
>>> interface in the sysfs ABI documentation, and update HugeTLB soft
>>> offline selftests.
>>
>> I'm sure you spotted that the documentation for
>> "/sys/devices/system/memory/soft_offline_pag" resides under "testing".
>
> But that is only one of several places in the kernel that
> feed into the page offline code.
Right, I can see one more call to soft_offline_page() from
arch/parisc/kernel/pdt.c.
And there is memory_failure_work_func() that I missed.
So agreed that this goes beyond testing.
It caught my attention because you ended up modifying documentation
residing in Documentation/ABI/testing/sysfs-memory-page-offline.
Reading 56374430c5dfc that Kyle pointed out is gets clearer.
So the patch motivation/idea makes sense to me.
I'll note two things:
(1) The interface design is not really extensible. Imagine if we want to
exclude yet another page type.
Can we maybe add a second interface that defines a filter for types?
Alternatively, you could use all the remaining flags as such a filter.
0 - Soft offline is completely disabled.
1 - Soft offline is enabled except for manually disabled types.
Filter
2 - disable hugetlb.
So value 3 would give you "enable all except hugetlb" etc.
We could add in the future
4 - disable guest_memfd (just some random example)
Then you
2) Changing the semantics of the value "1"
IIUC, you are changing the semantics of value "1". It used to mean
"SOFT_OFFLINE_ENABLED" now it is "SOFT_OFFLINE_ENABLED_SKIP_HUGETLB",
which is a change in behavior.
If that is the case, I don't think that's okay.
2) I am not sure about changing the default. That should be an admin/
distro decision.
--
Cheers
David / dhildenb
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-09-12 7:53 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-09-10 16:15 Kyle Meyer
2025-09-10 16:44 ` Jiaqi Yan
2025-09-10 17:50 ` Kyle Meyer
2025-09-11 21:26 ` Jiaqi Yan
2025-09-10 18:05 ` jane.chu
2025-09-11 8:46 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-11 17:56 ` Luck, Tony
2025-09-11 20:56 ` Kyle Meyer
2025-09-12 7:53 ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2025-09-12 15:17 ` Kyle Meyer
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