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From: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
To: Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	"Kirill A . Shutemov" <kirill@shutemov.name>,
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	Huang Ying <ying.huang@intel.com>,
	"Aneesh Kumar K . V" <aneesh.kumar@linux.ibm.com>,
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	Rick P Edgecombe <rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com>,
	Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
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	Oscar Salvador <osalvador@suse.de>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 0/7] mm/mprotect: Fix dax puds
Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2024 11:39:30 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZzTWQqr-zFQz0HHY@x1n> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAG48ez0NNph0Zp2aZ+c1T+U940CvwxcQ+jyEhp3KYZLSWPSrNw@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Nov 11, 2024 at 10:20:59PM +0100, Jann Horn wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 12, 2024 at 8:12 PM Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com> wrote:
> > Dax supports pud pages for a while, but mprotect on puds was missing since
> > the start.  This series tries to fix that by providing pud handling in
> > mprotect().  The goal is to add more types of pud mappings like hugetlb or
> > pfnmaps.  This series paves way for it by fixing known pud entries.
> 
> Do people actually use hardware where they can use PUD THP mappings
> for DAX? I thought that was just some esoteric feature that isn't
> actually usable on almost any system.
> Was I wrong about that?

I did run it with a qemu emulated nvdimm device.  Though in reality I've no
idea on how many people are using it..

> 
> I think another example that probably doesn't play entirely nice with
> PUD THP mappings is mremap()'s move_page_tables(). If
> dax_get_unmapped_area() allows creating a VMA at an unaligned start
> address (which I think it does?), move_page_tables() can probably end
> up copying from an aligned address mapped with a huge PUD entry to an
> unaligned address that needs to be mapped at the PTE level, and I
> think that will probably cause it to call into get_old_pmd() while a
> huge PUD entry is still present, which will probably get us a
> pud_bad() error or such?

I think you're probably right, that we have other places that may not work
well with pud mappings.

I also wonder whether dax_get_unmapped_area() needs to properly handle
MAP_FIXED, even for PMD mappings.

It looks like it always fallbacks to the default mm_get_unmapped_area()
with FIXED, which have no idea on dax->alignment so it'll always allow
it.. The issue is I'm not sure dax pmd can be split at all, while I think
split-able is needed when mremap from a pmd-aligned address to a
!pmd-aligned address.

Thanks,

-- 
Peter Xu



  reply	other threads:[~2024-11-13 16:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-08-12 18:12 Peter Xu
2024-08-12 18:12 ` [PATCH v5 1/7] mm/dax: Dump start address in fault handler Peter Xu
2024-08-12 18:12 ` [PATCH v5 2/7] mm/mprotect: Push mmu notifier to PUDs Peter Xu
2024-08-12 18:12 ` [PATCH v5 3/7] mm/powerpc: Add missing pud helpers Peter Xu
2024-08-12 18:12 ` [PATCH v5 4/7] mm/x86: Make pud_leaf() only care about PSE bit Peter Xu
2024-08-12 18:12 ` [PATCH v5 5/7] mm/x86: Implement arch_check_zapped_pud() Peter Xu
2024-08-12 18:12 ` [PATCH v5 6/7] mm/x86: Add missing pud helpers Peter Xu
2024-08-12 18:12 ` [PATCH v5 7/7] mm/mprotect: fix dax pud handlings Peter Xu
2024-08-13 12:50 ` [PATCH v5 0/7] mm/mprotect: Fix dax puds Michael Ellerman
2024-08-13 16:06   ` Peter Xu
2024-11-11 21:20 ` Jann Horn
2024-11-13 16:39   ` Peter Xu [this message]
2024-11-13 16:42     ` David Hildenbrand
2024-11-13 17:56       ` Peter Xu
2024-11-13 18:45         ` David Hildenbrand

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