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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
To: Gutierrez Asier <gutierrez.asier@huawei-partners.com>
Cc: akpm@linux-foundation.org, david@redhat.com,
	ryan.roberts@arm.com, baohua@kernel.org, willy@infradead.org,
	peterx@redhat.com, hannes@cmpxchg.org, hocko@kernel.org,
	roman.gushchin@linux.dev, shakeel.butt@linux.dev,
	muchun.song@linux.dev, cgroups@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	stepanov.anatoly@huawei.com,
	alexander.kozhevnikov@huawei-partners.com, guohanjun@huawei.com,
	weiyongjun1@huawei.com, wangkefeng.wang@huawei.com,
	judy.chenhui@huawei.com, yusongping@huawei.com,
	artem.kuzin@huawei.com, kang.sun@huawei.com
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/3] Cgroup-based THP control
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2024 14:27:09 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZyI0LTV2YgC4CGfW@tiehlicka> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <770bf300-1dbb-42fc-8958-b9307486178e@huawei-partners.com>

On Wed 30-10-24 15:51:00, Gutierrez Asier wrote:
> 
> 
> On 10/30/2024 11:38 AM, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > On Wed 30-10-24 16:33:08, gutierrez.asier@huawei-partners.com wrote:
> >> From: Asier Gutierrez <gutierrez.asier@huawei-partners.com>
> >>
> >> Currently THP modes are set globally. It can be an overkill if only some
> >> specific app/set of apps need to get benefits from THP usage. Moreover, various
> >> apps might need different THP settings. Here we propose a cgroup-based THP
> >> control mechanism.
> >>
> >> THP interface is added to memory cgroup subsystem. Existing global THP control
> >> semantics is supported for backward compatibility. When THP modes are set
> >> globally all the changes are propagated to memory cgroups. However, when a
> >> particular cgroup changes its THP policy, the global THP policy in sysfs remains
> >> the same.
> > 
> > Do you have any specific examples where this would be benefitial?
> 
> Now we're mostly focused on database scenarios (MySQL, Redis).  

That seems to be more process than workload oriented. Why the existing
per-process tuning doesn't work?

[...]
> >> Child cgroups inherit THP settings from parent cgroup upon creation. Particular
> >> cgroup mode changes aren't propagated to child cgroups.
> > 
> > So this breaks hierarchical property, doesn't it? In other words if a
> > parent cgroup would like to enforce a certain policy to all descendants
> > then this is not really possible. 
> 
> The first idea was to have some flexibility when changing THP policies. 
> 
> I will submit a new patch set which will enforce the cgroup hierarchy and change all
> the children recursively.

What is the expected semantics then?
-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs


  reply	other threads:[~2024-10-30 13:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-10-30  8:33 gutierrez.asier
2024-10-30  8:33 ` [RFC PATCH 1/3] mm: Add thp_flags control for cgroup gutierrez.asier
2024-10-30  8:33 ` [RFC PATCH 2/3] mm: Support for huge pages in cgroups gutierrez.asier
2024-10-30  8:33 ` [RFC PATCH 3/3] mm: Add thp_defrag control for cgroup gutierrez.asier
2024-10-30  8:38 ` [RFC PATCH 0/3] Cgroup-based THP control Michal Hocko
2024-10-30 12:51   ` Gutierrez Asier
2024-10-30 13:27     ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2024-10-30 14:58       ` Gutierrez Asier
2024-10-30 15:15         ` Michal Hocko
2024-10-31  6:06           ` Stepanov Anatoly
2024-10-31  8:33             ` Michal Hocko
2024-10-31 14:37               ` Stepanov Anatoly
2024-11-01  7:35                 ` Michal Hocko
2024-11-01 11:54                   ` Stepanov Anatoly
2024-11-01 13:15                     ` Michal Hocko
2024-11-01 13:24                       ` Stepanov Anatoly
2024-11-01 13:28                         ` Michal Hocko
2024-11-01 13:39                           ` Stepanov Anatoly
2024-11-01 13:50                             ` Michal Hocko
2024-11-01 14:03                               ` Stepanov Anatoly
2024-11-01 16:01                 ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-10-30 13:14 ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-10-30 13:16   ` David Hildenbrand
2024-10-30 14:45 ` Chris Down
2024-10-30 15:04   ` Michal Hocko
2024-10-30 15:08 ` Johannes Weiner
2024-11-01 12:44   ` Stepanov Anatoly

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