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From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
To: Waiman Long <llong@redhat.com>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	lizhe.67@bytedance.com, peterz@infradead.org, mingo@redhat.com,
	will@kernel.org, boqun.feng@gmail.com, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [RFC 1/2] rwsem: introduce upgrade_read interface
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2024 22:06:49 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZxHs6WyGcJEfd_DI@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a094f899-018c-4eb7-9bee-46f102a33b8e@redhat.com>

On Thu, Oct 17, 2024 at 01:36:41PM -0400, Waiman Long wrote:
> > At least for the XFS use case where direct I/O takes a share lock
> > that needs to be replaced with an exclusive one for certain kinds of
> > I/O would be useless.  But then again we've survived without this
> > operation for a long time, despite the initial port bringing one over
> > from IRIX.
> 
> That means XFS only needs to upgrade to a write lock in certain cases only,
> not all of them.

Yes.  Basically when we detect a direct I/O writes needs to clear the
SUID bit or other metadata, or when it is an extending write.

> Right? In that case, read_try_upgrade() that attempts to
> upgrade to a write lock will be useful.

Yes.  But I also understand Peters reasoning that it will be very hard
to actually have a useful implementation that does better than just
unlocking (which is what we do currently).


  reply	other threads:[~2024-10-18  5:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-10-16  4:35 [RFC 0/2] " lizhe.67
2024-10-16  4:35 ` [RFC 1/2] " lizhe.67
2024-10-16  4:56   ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-16  7:33     ` lizhe.67
2024-10-16  7:36       ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-16  8:00         ` lizhe.67
2024-10-16  8:03           ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-16  8:13             ` lizhe.67
2024-10-16 11:51     ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-10-16 12:21       ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-16 11:49   ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-10-17  6:23     ` lizhe.67
2024-10-16 14:23   ` Waiman Long
2024-10-16 18:05     ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-10-16 18:39       ` Waiman Long
2024-10-17  6:46     ` lizhe.67
2024-10-17 15:05     ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-17 17:36       ` Waiman Long
2024-10-18  5:06         ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2024-10-16  4:36 ` [RFC 2/2] khugepaged: use upgrade_read() to optimize collapse_huge_page lizhe.67
2024-10-16 11:53   ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-10-17  6:18     ` lizhe.67
2024-10-17 13:20       ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-10-18  6:37         ` lizhe.67
2024-10-23  7:27   ` kernel test robot
2024-10-16  8:09 ` [RFC 0/2] rwsem: introduce upgrade_read interface Peter Zijlstra
2024-10-16  8:53   ` lizhe.67
2024-10-16 12:10     ` Peter Zijlstra

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