From: Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>
To: Jonas Oberhauser <jonas.oberhauser@huaweicloud.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, rcu@vger.kernel.org,
linux-mm@kvack.org, lkmm@vger.kernel.org,
"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>,
Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>,
Neeraj Upadhyay <neeraj.upadhyay@kernel.org>,
Joel Fernandes <joel@joelfernandes.org>,
Josh Triplett <josh@joshtriplett.org>,
Uladzislau Rezki <urezki@gmail.com>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>,
Lai Jiangshan <jiangshanlai@gmail.com>,
Zqiang <qiang.zhang1211@gmail.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com>,
Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Kent Overstreet <kent.overstreet@gmail.com>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
maged.michael@gmail.com,
Neeraj Upadhyay <neeraj.upadhyay@amd.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 1/4] hazptr: Add initial implementation of hazard pointers
Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2024 03:02:00 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZvPfmAp_2mDkI3ss@boqun-archlinux> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <55975a55-302f-4c45-bfcc-192a8a1242e9@huaweicloud.com>
Hi Jonas,
On Fri, Sep 20, 2024 at 09:41:15AM +0200, Jonas Oberhauser wrote:
>
>
> Am 9/17/2024 um 4:33 PM schrieb Boqun Feng:
> > +static inline void *__hazptr_tryprotect(hazptr_t *hzp,
> > + void *const *p,
> > + unsigned long head_offset)
> > +{
> > + void *ptr;
> > + struct callback_head *head;
> > +
> > + ptr = READ_ONCE(*p);
> > +
> > + if (ptr == NULL)
> > + return NULL;
> > +
> > + head = (struct callback_head *)(ptr + head_offset);
> > +
> > + WRITE_ONCE(*hzp, head);
> > + smp_mb();
> > +
> > + ptr = READ_ONCE(*p); // read again
> > +
> > + if (ptr + head_offset != head) { // pointer changed
> > + WRITE_ONCE(*hzp, NULL); // reset hazard pointer
> > + return NULL;
> > + } else
> > + return ptr;
> > +}
>
> There is a subtle potential for ABA issues here.
>
> If the compiler replaces 'return ptr;' with 'return head - head_offset;',
> then you do not have an address dependency from the second read.
>
> In this case, in ABA, the first read can read from a stale store, then the
> second read reads the same value from a newer store but only establishes
> control-dependency based synchronization with that store; any reads from
> *ptr could be speculatively executed before doing the second ptr =
> READ_ONCE(*p).
>
> Therefore you could read the object state before it is properly
> reinitialized by the second store.
>
Thanks for taking a look, and nice find!
> I'm not sure what the most efficient fix is or if you just want to gamble
> that "the compiler will never do that".
> I guess either READ_ONCE(ptr) or a compiler barrier before return ptr might
> do it?
>
I think the root cause of this is that compiler can replace 'ptr' with
'head - head_offset' based on pointer value comparison. A fix would be
converting pointer to unsigned long and doing the comparison:
if ((unsigned long)ptr + head_offset != (unsigned long)head) {
WRITE_ONCE(*hzp, NULL);
return NULL;
} else
return ptr;
because of the conversion, compilers lose the information of pointer
equality, therefore cannot replace 'ptr' with 'head - head_offset'. Of
course, if we are really worried about compilers being too "smart", we
can always do the comparison in asm code, then compilers don't know
anything of the equality between 'ptr' and 'head - head_offset'.
Regards,
boqun
> Have fun,
> jonas
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-09-25 10:02 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-09-17 14:33 [RFC PATCH 0/4] Add hazard pointers to kernel Boqun Feng
2024-09-17 14:33 ` [RFC PATCH 1/4] hazptr: Add initial implementation of hazard pointers Boqun Feng
2024-09-18 8:27 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-09-18 15:17 ` Alan Huang
2024-09-19 6:56 ` Boqun Feng
2024-09-19 18:07 ` Jonas Oberhauser
2024-09-19 0:12 ` Jann Horn
2024-09-19 20:30 ` Jonas Oberhauser
2024-09-20 7:43 ` Jonas Oberhauser
2024-09-19 6:39 ` Lai Jiangshan
2024-09-19 7:10 ` Boqun Feng
2024-09-19 12:33 ` Alan Huang
2024-09-19 13:57 ` Alan Huang
2024-09-19 18:58 ` Boqun Feng
2024-09-19 19:53 ` Alan Huang
2024-09-19 16:10 ` Alan Huang
2024-09-19 14:00 ` Jonas Oberhauser
2024-09-20 7:41 ` Jonas Oberhauser
2024-09-25 10:02 ` Boqun Feng [this message]
2024-09-25 10:11 ` Jonas Oberhauser
2024-09-25 10:45 ` Boqun Feng
2024-09-25 11:59 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-09-25 12:16 ` Boqun Feng
2024-09-25 12:47 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-09-25 13:10 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-09-25 13:20 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-09-26 6:16 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-09-26 15:53 ` Jonas Oberhauser
2024-09-26 16:12 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-09-26 16:40 ` Jonas Oberhauser
2024-09-26 16:54 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-09-27 0:01 ` Boqun Feng
2024-09-27 1:30 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-09-27 1:37 ` Boqun Feng
2024-09-27 4:28 ` Boqun Feng
2024-09-27 10:59 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-09-27 14:43 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-09-27 15:22 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-09-27 16:06 ` Alan Huang
2024-09-27 16:44 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-09-27 17:15 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-09-27 17:23 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-09-27 17:51 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-09-27 18:13 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-09-27 19:12 ` Jonas Oberhauser
2024-09-27 19:28 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-09-27 20:24 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-09-27 20:02 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-09-27 1:20 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-09-27 4:38 ` Boqun Feng
2024-09-27 19:23 ` Jonas Oberhauser
2024-09-27 20:10 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-09-27 22:18 ` Jonas Oberhauser
2024-09-28 22:10 ` Alan Huang
2024-09-28 23:12 ` Alan Huang
2024-09-25 12:19 ` Jonas Oberhauser
2024-09-17 14:34 ` [RFC PATCH 2/4] refscale: Add benchmarks for hazptr Boqun Feng
2024-09-17 14:34 ` [RFC PATCH 3/4] refscale: Add benchmarks for percpu_ref Boqun Feng
2024-09-17 14:34 ` [RFC PATCH 4/4] WIP: hazptr: Add hazptr test sample Boqun Feng
2024-09-18 7:18 ` [RFC PATCH 0/4] Add hazard pointers to kernel Linus Torvalds
2024-09-18 22:44 ` Neeraj Upadhyay
2024-09-19 6:46 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-09-20 5:00 ` Neeraj Upadhyay
2024-09-19 14:30 ` Mateusz Guzik
2024-09-19 14:14 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-09-19 14:21 ` Linus Torvalds
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