From: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
To: Chris Mason <clm@meta.com>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
Christian Theune <ct@flyingcircus.io>,
linux-mm@kvack.org,
"linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org" <linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Daniel Dao <dqminh@cloudflare.com>,
Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
regressions@lists.linux.dev, regressions@leemhuis.info
Subject: Re: Known and unfixed active data loss bug in MM + XFS with large folios since Dec 2021 (any kernel from 6.1 upwards)
Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2024 19:15:26 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZuSBPrN2CbWMlr3f@casper.infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b40b2b1c-3ed5-4943-b8d0-316e04cb1dab@meta.com>
On Fri, Sep 13, 2024 at 12:33:49PM -0400, Chris Mason wrote:
> > If you could get the precise index numbers, that would be an important
> > clue. It would be interesting to know the index number in the xarray
> > where the folio was found rather than folio->index (as I suspect that
> > folio->index is completely bogus because folio->mapping is wrong).
> > But gathering that info is going to be hard.
>
> This particular debug session was late at night while we were urgently
> trying to roll out some NFS features. I didn't really save many of the
> details because my plan was to reproduce it and make a full bug report.
>
> Also, I was explaining the details to people in workplace chat, which is
> wildly bad at rendering long lines of structured text, especially when
> half the people in the chat are on a mobile device.
>
> You're probably wondering why all of that is important...what I'm really
> trying to say is that I've attached a screenshot of the debugging output.
>
> It came from a older drgn script, where I'm still clinging to "radix",
> and you probably can't trust the string representation of the page flags
> because I wasn't yet using Omar's helpers and may have hard coded them
> from an older kernel.
That's all _fine_. This is enormously helpful.
First, we see the same folio appear three times. I think that's
particularly significant. Modulo 64 (number of entries/node), the indices
the bad folio are found at is 16, 32 and 48. So I think the _current_
order of folio is 4, but at the time the folio was put in the xarray,
it was order 6. Except ... at order-6 we elide a level of the xarray.
So we shouldn't be able to see this. Hm.
Oh! I think split is the key. Let's say we have an order-6 (or
larger) folio. And we call split_huge_page() (whatever it's called
in your kernel version). That calls xas_split_alloc() followed
by xas_split(). xas_split_alloc() puts entry in node->slots[0] and
initialises node->slots[1..XA_CHUNK_SIZE] to a sibling entry.
Now, if we do allocate those node in xas_split_alloc(), we're supposed to
free them with radix_tree_node_rcu_free() which zeroes all the slots.
But what if we don't, somehow? (this is my best current theory).
Then we allocate the node to a different tree, but any time we try to
look something up, unless it's the index for which we allocated the node,
we find a sibling entry and it points to a stale pointer.
I'm going to think on this a bit more, but so far this is all good
evidence for my leading theory.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-09-13 18:15 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 81+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-09-12 21:18 Christian Theune
2024-09-12 21:55 ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-09-12 22:11 ` Christian Theune
2024-09-12 22:12 ` Jens Axboe
2024-09-12 22:25 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-09-12 22:30 ` Jens Axboe
2024-09-12 22:56 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-09-13 3:44 ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-09-13 13:23 ` Christian Theune
2024-09-13 12:11 ` Christian Brauner
2024-09-16 13:29 ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-09-18 9:51 ` Christian Brauner
2024-09-13 15:30 ` Chris Mason
2024-09-13 15:51 ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-09-13 16:33 ` Chris Mason
2024-09-13 18:15 ` Matthew Wilcox [this message]
2024-09-13 21:24 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-09-13 21:30 ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-09-13 16:04 ` David Howells
2024-09-13 16:37 ` Chris Mason
2024-09-16 0:00 ` Dave Chinner
2024-09-16 4:20 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-09-16 8:47 ` Chris Mason
2024-09-17 9:32 ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-09-17 9:36 ` Chris Mason
2024-09-17 10:11 ` Christian Theune
2024-09-17 11:13 ` Chris Mason
2024-09-17 13:25 ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-09-18 6:37 ` Jens Axboe
2024-09-18 9:28 ` Chris Mason
2024-09-18 12:23 ` Chris Mason
2024-09-18 13:34 ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-09-18 13:51 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-09-18 14:12 ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-09-18 14:39 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-09-18 17:12 ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-09-18 16:37 ` Chris Mason
2024-09-19 1:43 ` Dave Chinner
2024-09-19 3:03 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-09-19 3:12 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-09-19 3:38 ` Jens Axboe
2024-09-19 4:32 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-09-19 4:42 ` Jens Axboe
2024-09-19 4:36 ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-09-19 4:46 ` Jens Axboe
2024-09-19 5:20 ` Jens Axboe
2024-09-19 4:46 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-09-20 13:54 ` Chris Mason
2024-09-24 15:58 ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-09-24 17:16 ` Sam James
2024-09-25 16:06 ` Kairui Song
2024-09-25 16:42 ` Christian Theune
2024-09-27 14:51 ` Sam James
2024-09-27 14:58 ` Jens Axboe
2024-10-01 21:10 ` Kairui Song
2024-09-24 19:17 ` Chris Mason
2024-09-24 19:24 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-09-19 6:34 ` Christian Theune
2024-09-19 6:57 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-09-19 10:19 ` Christian Theune
2024-09-30 17:34 ` Christian Theune
2024-09-30 18:46 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-09-30 19:25 ` Christian Theune
2024-09-30 20:12 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-09-30 20:56 ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-09-30 22:42 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2024-09-30 23:00 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2024-09-30 23:53 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-10-01 0:56 ` Chris Mason
2024-10-01 7:54 ` Christian Theune
2024-10-10 6:29 ` Christian Theune
2024-10-11 7:27 ` Christian Theune
2024-10-11 9:08 ` Christian Theune
2024-10-11 13:06 ` Chris Mason
2024-10-11 13:50 ` Christian Theune
2024-10-12 17:01 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-12-02 10:44 ` Christian Theune
2024-10-01 2:22 ` Dave Chinner
2024-09-16 7:14 ` Christian Theune
2024-09-16 12:16 ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-09-18 8:31 ` Christian Theune
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