From: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
Christian Theune <ct@flyingcircus.io>,
linux-mm@kvack.org,
"linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org" <linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Daniel Dao <dqminh@cloudflare.com>,
Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
clm@meta.com, regressions@lists.linux.dev,
regressions@leemhuis.info
Subject: Re: Known and unfixed active data loss bug in MM + XFS with large folios since Dec 2021 (any kernel from 6.1 upwards)
Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2024 04:44:10 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZuO1CtpGgwyf8Hui@casper.infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHk-=wg51pT_b+tgHuAaO6O0PT19WY9p3CXEqTn=LO8Zjaf=7A@mail.gmail.com>
On Thu, Sep 12, 2024 at 03:56:17PM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Thu, 12 Sept 2024 at 15:30, Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk> wrote:
> >
> > It might be an iomap thing... Other file systems do use it, but to
> > various degrees, and XFS is definitely the primary user.
>
> I have to say, I looked at the iomap code, and it's disgusting.
I'm not going to comment on this because I think it's unrelated to
the problem.
We have reports of bad entries being returned from page cache lookups.
Sometimes they're pages which have been freed, sometimes they're pages
which are very definitely in use by a different filesystem.
I think that's what the underlying problem is here (or else we have
two problems). I'm not convinced that it's necessarily related to large
folios, but it's certainly easier to reproduce with large folios.
I've looked at a number of explanations for this. Could it be a page
that's being freed without being removed from the xarray? We seem to
have debug that would trigger in that case, so I don't think so.
Could it be a page with a messed-up refcount? Again, I think we'd
notice the VM_BUG_ON_PAGE() in put_page_testzero(), so I don't think
it's that either.
My current best guess is that we have an xarray node with a stray pointer
in it; that the node is freed from one xarray, allocated to a different
xarray, but not properly cleared. But I can't reproduce the problem,
so that's pure speculation on my part.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-09-13 3:44 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 81+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-09-12 21:18 Christian Theune
2024-09-12 21:55 ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-09-12 22:11 ` Christian Theune
2024-09-12 22:12 ` Jens Axboe
2024-09-12 22:25 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-09-12 22:30 ` Jens Axboe
2024-09-12 22:56 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-09-13 3:44 ` Matthew Wilcox [this message]
2024-09-13 13:23 ` Christian Theune
2024-09-13 12:11 ` Christian Brauner
2024-09-16 13:29 ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-09-18 9:51 ` Christian Brauner
2024-09-13 15:30 ` Chris Mason
2024-09-13 15:51 ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-09-13 16:33 ` Chris Mason
2024-09-13 18:15 ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-09-13 21:24 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-09-13 21:30 ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-09-13 16:04 ` David Howells
2024-09-13 16:37 ` Chris Mason
2024-09-16 0:00 ` Dave Chinner
2024-09-16 4:20 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-09-16 8:47 ` Chris Mason
2024-09-17 9:32 ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-09-17 9:36 ` Chris Mason
2024-09-17 10:11 ` Christian Theune
2024-09-17 11:13 ` Chris Mason
2024-09-17 13:25 ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-09-18 6:37 ` Jens Axboe
2024-09-18 9:28 ` Chris Mason
2024-09-18 12:23 ` Chris Mason
2024-09-18 13:34 ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-09-18 13:51 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-09-18 14:12 ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-09-18 14:39 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-09-18 17:12 ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-09-18 16:37 ` Chris Mason
2024-09-19 1:43 ` Dave Chinner
2024-09-19 3:03 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-09-19 3:12 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-09-19 3:38 ` Jens Axboe
2024-09-19 4:32 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-09-19 4:42 ` Jens Axboe
2024-09-19 4:36 ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-09-19 4:46 ` Jens Axboe
2024-09-19 5:20 ` Jens Axboe
2024-09-19 4:46 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-09-20 13:54 ` Chris Mason
2024-09-24 15:58 ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-09-24 17:16 ` Sam James
2024-09-25 16:06 ` Kairui Song
2024-09-25 16:42 ` Christian Theune
2024-09-27 14:51 ` Sam James
2024-09-27 14:58 ` Jens Axboe
2024-10-01 21:10 ` Kairui Song
2024-09-24 19:17 ` Chris Mason
2024-09-24 19:24 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-09-19 6:34 ` Christian Theune
2024-09-19 6:57 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-09-19 10:19 ` Christian Theune
2024-09-30 17:34 ` Christian Theune
2024-09-30 18:46 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-09-30 19:25 ` Christian Theune
2024-09-30 20:12 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-09-30 20:56 ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-09-30 22:42 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2024-09-30 23:00 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2024-09-30 23:53 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-10-01 0:56 ` Chris Mason
2024-10-01 7:54 ` Christian Theune
2024-10-10 6:29 ` Christian Theune
2024-10-11 7:27 ` Christian Theune
2024-10-11 9:08 ` Christian Theune
2024-10-11 13:06 ` Chris Mason
2024-10-11 13:50 ` Christian Theune
2024-10-12 17:01 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-12-02 10:44 ` Christian Theune
2024-10-01 2:22 ` Dave Chinner
2024-09-16 7:14 ` Christian Theune
2024-09-16 12:16 ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-09-18 8:31 ` Christian Theune
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