From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
To: Yafang Shao <laoar.shao@gmail.com>
Cc: "Barry Song" <21cnbao@gmail.com>,
akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
42.hyeyoo@gmail.com, cl@linux.com, hailong.liu@oppo.com,
hch@infradead.org, iamjoonsoo.kim@lge.com, penberg@kernel.org,
rientjes@google.com, roman.gushchin@linux.dev,
torvalds@linux-foundation.org, urezki@gmail.com,
v-songbaohua@oppo.com, vbabka@suse.cz,
virtualization@lists.linux.dev,
"Lorenzo Stoakes" <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>,
"Kees Cook" <kees@kernel.org>,
"Eugenio Pérez" <eperezma@redhat.com>,
"Jason Wang" <jasowang@redhat.com>,
"Maxime Coquelin" <maxime.coquelin@redhat.com>,
"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
"Xuan Zhuo" <xuanzhuo@linux.alibaba.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 4/4] mm: prohibit NULL deference exposed for unsupported non-blockable __GFP_NOFAIL
Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2024 09:50:05 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZsL5LSK8R3B1HsR1@tiehlicka> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALOAHbD-npQmchiRJpGvOBVOM-Li6oRyMnKAjgiHq3DasiXMUQ@mail.gmail.com>
On Sun 18-08-24 10:55:09, Yafang Shao wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 17, 2024 at 2:25 PM Barry Song <21cnbao@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > From: Barry Song <v-songbaohua@oppo.com>
> >
> > When users allocate memory with the __GFP_NOFAIL flag, they might
> > incorrectly use it alongside GFP_ATOMIC, GFP_NOWAIT, etc. This kind of
> > non-blockable __GFP_NOFAIL is not supported and is pointless. If we
> > attempt and still fail to allocate memory for these users, we have two
> > choices:
> >
> > 1. We could busy-loop and hope that some other direct reclamation or
> > kswapd rescues the current process. However, this is unreliable
> > and could ultimately lead to hard or soft lockups,
>
> That can occur even if we set both __GFP_NOFAIL and
> __GFP_DIRECT_RECLAIM, right?
No, it cannot! With __GFP_DIRECT_RECLAIM the allocator might take a long
time to satisfy the allocation but it will reclaim to get the memory, it
will sleep if necessary and it will will trigger OOM killer if there is
no other option. __GFP_DIRECT_RECLAIM is a completely different story
than without it which means _no_sleeping_ is allowed and therefore only
a busy loop waiting for the allocation to proceed is allowed.
> So, I don't believe the issue is related
> to setting __GFP_DIRECT_RECLAIM; rather, it stems from the flawed
> design of __GFP_NOFAIL itself.
Care to elaborate?
--
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-08-19 7:56 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 101+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-08-17 6:24 [PATCH v3 0/4] mm: clarify nofail memory allocation Barry Song
2024-08-17 6:24 ` [PATCH v3 1/4] vduse: avoid using __GFP_NOFAIL Barry Song
2024-08-17 6:24 ` [PATCH v3 2/4] mm: document __GFP_NOFAIL must be blockable Barry Song
2024-08-17 6:24 ` [PATCH v3 3/4] mm: BUG_ON to avoid NULL deference while __GFP_NOFAIL fails Barry Song
2024-08-19 9:43 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-19 9:47 ` Barry Song
2024-08-19 9:55 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-19 10:02 ` Barry Song
2024-08-19 12:33 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-19 12:48 ` Barry Song
2024-08-19 12:49 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-19 17:12 ` Michal Hocko
2024-08-19 17:17 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-08-19 20:24 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-19 20:35 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-08-19 21:57 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-19 22:13 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-08-20 6:17 ` Michal Hocko
2024-08-19 12:49 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-08-19 12:51 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-19 12:53 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-08-19 13:14 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-19 13:05 ` Barry Song
2024-08-19 13:10 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-19 13:19 ` Barry Song
2024-08-19 13:22 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-17 6:24 ` [PATCH v3 4/4] mm: prohibit NULL deference exposed for unsupported non-blockable __GFP_NOFAIL Barry Song
2024-08-18 2:55 ` Yafang Shao
2024-08-18 3:48 ` Barry Song
2024-08-18 5:51 ` Yafang Shao
2024-08-18 6:27 ` Barry Song
2024-08-18 6:45 ` Barry Song
2024-08-18 7:07 ` Yafang Shao
2024-08-18 7:25 ` Barry Song
2024-08-19 7:51 ` Michal Hocko
2024-08-19 7:50 ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2024-08-19 9:25 ` Yafang Shao
2024-08-19 9:39 ` Barry Song
2024-08-19 9:45 ` Yafang Shao
2024-08-19 10:10 ` Barry Song
2024-08-19 11:56 ` Yafang Shao
2024-08-19 12:09 ` Michal Hocko
2024-08-19 12:17 ` Yafang Shao
2024-08-19 14:01 ` Michal Hocko
2024-08-19 10:17 ` Michal Hocko
2024-08-19 11:56 ` Yafang Shao
2024-08-19 12:04 ` Michal Hocko
2024-08-19 9:44 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-19 10:19 ` Michal Hocko
2024-08-19 12:48 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-19 13:02 ` [PATCH v3 0/4] mm: clarify nofail memory allocation David Hildenbrand
2024-08-19 16:05 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-08-19 19:23 ` Barry Song
2024-08-19 19:33 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-08-19 21:48 ` Barry Song
2024-08-20 6:24 ` Michal Hocko
2024-08-21 12:40 ` Yafang Shao
2024-08-21 22:59 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-08-22 6:21 ` Michal Hocko
2024-08-22 6:40 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-08-22 6:56 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-08-22 7:47 ` Michal Hocko
2024-08-22 7:57 ` Barry Song
2024-08-22 8:24 ` Michal Hocko
2024-08-22 8:39 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-22 9:08 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-08-22 9:16 ` Michal Hocko
2024-08-22 9:24 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-08-22 9:11 ` Michal Hocko
2024-08-22 9:18 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-08-22 9:33 ` Michal Hocko
2024-08-22 9:44 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-08-22 9:59 ` Michal Hocko
2024-08-22 10:30 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-08-22 10:46 ` Michal Hocko
2024-08-22 9:27 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-22 9:34 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-08-22 9:43 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-22 9:53 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-08-22 11:58 ` Johannes Weiner
2024-08-26 12:10 ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-08-27 6:57 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-08-27 7:15 ` Barry Song
2024-08-27 7:38 ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-08-27 7:50 ` Barry Song
2024-08-29 10:24 ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-08-29 11:53 ` Barry Song
2024-08-29 13:20 ` Michal Hocko
2024-08-29 21:27 ` Barry Song
2024-08-29 22:31 ` Barry Song
2024-08-30 7:24 ` Michal Hocko
2024-08-30 7:37 ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-08-22 9:41 ` Michal Hocko
2024-08-22 9:42 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-22 7:01 ` Gao Xiang
2024-08-22 7:54 ` Michal Hocko
2024-08-22 8:04 ` Gao Xiang
2024-08-22 14:35 ` Yafang Shao
2024-08-22 15:02 ` Gao Xiang
2024-08-22 6:37 ` Barry Song
2024-08-22 14:22 ` Yafang Shao
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