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From: Mary Strodl <mstrodl@freedom.csh.rit.edu>
To: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Mary Strodl <mstrodl@csh.rit.edu>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	urezki@gmail.com, linux-mm@kvack.org, lee@kernel.org,
	andi.shyti@kernel.org, linux-i2c@vger.kernel.org,
	s.hauer@pengutronix.de, christian.gmeiner@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3] mm: vmalloc: export __vmalloc_node_range
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2024 09:20:15 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZpkWj-iFiA-JHbbf@freedom.csh.rit.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZpkQQ5GzJ4atvR6a@casper.infradead.org>

On Thu, Jul 18, 2024 at 01:53:23PM +0100, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> That does work, but I would assume that since this BIOS exists to
> communicate with the hardware that it'd need various special privileges
> and that running in ring 3 would not work.

Exactly.
 
> Ultimately, better off running the whole thing inside a VM and passing
> the device through to the guest.  Or ignoring the BIOS entirely and
> implementing direct access to the hardware.  But neither of these
> approaches is "a way to do what I'm trying to do", they're entirely
> different approaches to making this hardware work.

If I ran the whole thing inside a VM, I would still need support in the
kernel, right?

As far as I know, there is no documentation on Congatec's side about the
underlying interface. Obviously I could disassemble the blob in the BIOS
and figure it out, but I suspect that will have much less hardware
compatibility and be subject to random breakage if they make a BIOS
update or something. Plus, I would probably run afoul of copyright if I
wrote a driver after doing that.

I'm not really thrilled that this is their design either, but I'm not
sure that there is a better answer...

Thank you!


  reply	other threads:[~2024-07-18 13:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-07-18  1:15 [PATCH 0/3] Add support for Congatec CGEB BIOS interface Mary Strodl
2024-07-18  1:15 ` [PATCH 1/3] mm: vmalloc: export __vmalloc_node_range Mary Strodl
2024-07-18  2:53   ` Andrew Morton
2024-07-18 12:29     ` Mary Strodl
2024-07-18  3:04   ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-07-18 12:40     ` Mary Strodl
2024-07-18 12:45       ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-07-18 12:49         ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-07-18 12:53           ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-07-18 13:20             ` Mary Strodl [this message]
2024-07-18 21:31               ` Andrew Morton
2024-07-18 21:35                 ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-07-18 21:39                   ` Andrew Morton
2024-07-19  6:41                     ` Christian Gmeiner
2024-07-19 11:58                       ` Mary Strodl
2024-07-19 12:42                         ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-07-24  0:00                           ` Andrew Morton
2024-07-24  0:16                             ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-07-24  1:36                               ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-07-19 19:59                         ` Rudolf Marek
2024-07-22 14:54                           ` Mary Strodl
2024-07-18  1:15 ` [PATCH 2/3] x86: Add basic support for the Congatec CGEB BIOS interface Mary Strodl
2024-07-18  3:56   ` kernel test robot
2024-07-18 14:01   ` kernel test robot
2024-07-18  1:15 ` [PATCH 3/3] i2c: Add Congatec CGEB I2C driver Mary Strodl

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