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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Cc: Barry Song <21cnbao@gmail.com>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	Barry Song <v-songbaohua@oppo.com>,
	Uladzislau Rezki <urezki@gmail.com>,
	Lorenzo Stoakes <lstoakes@gmail.com>,
	Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>,
	Pekka Enberg <penberg@kernel.org>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Joonsoo Kim <iamjoonsoo.kim@lge.com>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	Roman Gushchin <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>,
	Hyeonggon Yoo <42.hyeyoo@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC] mm: warn potential return NULL for kmalloc_array and kvmalloc_array with __GFP_NOFAIL
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2024 09:12:37 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZpjAZW1DokqxyuHW@tiehlicka> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Zpi-lvxQ7O6lLJhX@infradead.org>

On Thu 18-07-24 00:04:54, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 18, 2024 at 08:58:44AM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > WARN_ON is effectively BUG_ON with panic_on_warn so if this happens to
> > be in a user triggerable path then you would have an easy way to panic
> > the whole machine. It is likely true that the kernel could oops just
> > right after the failure but that could be recoverable at least.
> 
> If you set panic_on_warn you are either debugging in which case it's
> the right thing, or you are fucked.  So don't do it unless you
> expet frequent crashes.

I do agree and I wouldn't recommend running panic_on_warn on anything
even touching production setups. Reality check disagrees.

> > If anything I would just pr_warn with caller address or add dump_stack
> > to capture the full trace. That would give us the caller that needs
> > fixing without panicing the system with panic_on_warn.
> 
> The whole freaking point of __GFP_NOFAIL is that callers don't handle
> allocation failures.  So in fact a straight BUG is the right thing
> here.

OOPs from the NULL ptr could be just a safer option bacause it could be
recoverable.

Anyway, I am questioning that WARN/BUG/pr_warn on overflow check is
adding any actual value because GFP_NOFAIL large allocations could be
even more dangerous essentially rendering the system completely
unsuabale.

-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs


  reply	other threads:[~2024-07-18  7:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-07-17 23:00 Barry Song
2024-07-18  6:58 ` Michal Hocko
2024-07-18  7:04   ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-07-18  7:12     ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2024-07-18  8:16       ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-07-18  7:22   ` Barry Song
2024-07-18  7:27     ` Michal Hocko
2024-07-18  7:41       ` Barry Song
2024-07-18  7:53         ` Michal Hocko
2024-07-18  8:18           ` Barry Song
2024-07-18  8:32             ` Michal Hocko
2024-07-18  8:43               ` Barry Song
2024-07-18  8:50                 ` Michal Hocko
2024-07-19  0:35                   ` Barry Song
2024-07-19  7:02                     ` Michal Hocko
2024-07-19  7:07                       ` Barry Song
2024-07-19  7:42                         ` Michal Hocko
2024-07-19  7:51                           ` Barry Song
2024-07-19  8:01                             ` Michal Hocko
2024-07-19  8:28                               ` Barry Song
2024-07-19  8:40                                 ` Michal Hocko
2024-07-19  9:36                                   ` Barry Song
2024-07-19  9:45                                     ` Michal Hocko
2024-07-19  9:58                                       ` Barry Song
2024-07-19 10:57                                         ` Michal Hocko
2024-07-19 11:05                                           ` Barry Song
2024-07-19 11:19                                             ` Michal Hocko
2024-07-19  8:50                               ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-07-19  9:33                                 ` Michal Hocko
2024-07-19 10:10                                   ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-07-19 10:52                                     ` Michal Hocko
2024-07-19 11:13                                       ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-07-19 11:26                                         ` Michal Hocko
2024-07-19 13:02                                           ` Barry Song
2024-07-19 13:30                                             ` Michal Hocko
2024-07-20  0:36                                               ` Barry Song
2024-07-22  7:23                                                 ` Michal Hocko
2024-07-22  7:34                                                   ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-07-19  7:37                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-07-19  7:43                         ` Barry Song
2024-07-19  7:53                           ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-07-20 22:14                             ` Barry Song
2024-07-22  7:26                               ` Michal Hocko
2024-07-22  8:09                                 ` Barry Song
2024-07-22  9:01                                   ` Michal Hocko
2024-07-22 23:18                                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-07-22 23:22                                       ` Barry Song
2024-07-19  8:35                     ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-07-18  7:48 ` Hailong Liu
2024-07-18  8:33   ` Barry Song

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