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From: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
To: Oliver Upton <oliver.upton@linux.dev>
Cc: James Houghton <jthoughton@google.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 6/7] KVM: arm64: Relax locking for kvm_test_age_gfn and kvm_age_gfn
Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2024 16:36:56 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Zl-lGLv5PbEUYspD@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Zl-cjHVKaQ0iQE5d@linux.dev>

On Tue, Jun 04, 2024, Oliver Upton wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 04, 2024 at 03:20:20PM -0700, James Houghton wrote:
> > On Fri, May 31, 2024 at 12:18 PM Oliver Upton <oliver.upton@linux.dev> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Fri, May 31, 2024 at 12:11:33PM -0700, Oliver Upton wrote:
> > > > On Wed, May 29, 2024 at 06:05:09PM +0000, James Houghton wrote:
> > > Oh, and the WARN_ON() in kvm_pgtable_stage2_test_clear_young() is bogus
> > > now. Maybe demote it to:
> > >
> > >   r = kvm_pgtable_walk(...);
> > >   WARN_ON_ONCE(r && r != -EAGAIN);
> > 
> > Oh, indeed, thank you. Just to make sure -- does it make sense to
> > retry the cmpxchg if it fails? For example, the way I have it now for
> > x86[1], we retry the cmpxchg if the spte is still a leaf, otherwise we
> > move on to the next one having done nothing. Does something like that
> > make sense for arm64?
> 
> At least for arm64 I do not see a need for retry. The only possible
> races are:
> 
>  - A stage-2 fault handler establishing / adjusting the mapping for the
>    GFN. If the guest is directly accessing the GFN in question, what's
>    the point of wiping out AF?
> 
>    Even when returning -EAGAIN we've already primed stage2_age_data::young,
>    so we report the correct state back to the primary MMU.
> 
>  - Another kvm_age_gfn() trying to age the same GFN. I haven't even
>    looked to see if this is possible from the primary MMU POV, but in
>    theory one of the calls will win the race and clear AF.
> 
> Given Yu's concerns about making pending writers wait, we should take
> every opportunity to bail on the walk.

+1.  The x86 path that retries is, for all intents and purposes, limited to Intel
CPUs that don't support EPT A/D bits, i.e. to pre-HSW CPUs.  I wouldn't make any
decisions based on that code.


  reply	other threads:[~2024-06-04 23:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-05-29 18:05 [PATCH v4 0/7] mm: multi-gen LRU: Walk secondary MMU page tables while aging James Houghton
2024-05-29 18:05 ` [PATCH v4 1/7] mm/Kconfig: Add LRU_GEN_WALKS_SECONDARY_MMU James Houghton
2024-05-29 18:05 ` [PATCH v4 2/7] mm: multi-gen LRU: Have secondary MMUs participate in aging James Houghton
2024-05-29 21:03   ` Yu Zhao
2024-05-29 21:59     ` Sean Christopherson
2024-05-29 22:21       ` Yu Zhao
2024-05-29 22:58         ` Sean Christopherson
2024-05-30  1:08           ` James Houghton
2024-05-31  6:05             ` Yu Zhao
2024-05-31  7:02               ` Oliver Upton
2024-05-31 16:45                 ` Yu Zhao
2024-05-31 18:41                   ` Oliver Upton
2024-06-03 22:45               ` James Houghton
2024-06-03 23:03                 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-06-03 23:16                   ` James Houghton
2024-06-04  0:23                     ` Sean Christopherson
2024-05-31  7:24     ` Oliver Upton
2024-05-31 20:31       ` Yu Zhao
2024-05-31 21:06         ` David Matlack
2024-05-31 21:09           ` David Matlack
2024-05-31 21:18         ` Oliver Upton
2024-05-29 18:05 ` [PATCH v4 3/7] KVM: Add lockless memslot walk to KVM James Houghton
2024-05-29 21:51   ` Sean Christopherson
2024-05-30  3:26     ` James Houghton
2024-05-29 18:05 ` [PATCH v4 4/7] KVM: Move MMU lock acquisition for test/clear_young to architecture James Houghton
2024-05-29 21:55   ` Sean Christopherson
2024-05-30  3:27     ` James Houghton
2024-05-29 18:05 ` [PATCH v4 5/7] KVM: x86: Relax locking for kvm_test_age_gfn and kvm_age_gfn James Houghton
2024-05-29 18:05 ` [PATCH v4 6/7] KVM: arm64: " James Houghton
2024-05-31 19:11   ` Oliver Upton
2024-05-31 19:18     ` Oliver Upton
2024-06-04 22:20       ` James Houghton
2024-06-04 23:00         ` Oliver Upton
2024-06-04 23:36           ` Sean Christopherson [this message]
2024-05-29 18:05 ` [PATCH v4 7/7] KVM: selftests: Add multi-gen LRU aging to access_tracking_perf_test James Houghton

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