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From: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
To: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
Cc: "Liam R. Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
	Lokesh Gidra <lokeshgidra@google.com>,
	Alistair Popple <apopple@nvidia.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm: Always sanity check anon_vma first for per-vma locks
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2024 08:38:59 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZhkrY5tkxgAsL1GF@x1n> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZhinCD-PoblxGFm0@casper.infradead.org>

On Fri, Apr 12, 2024 at 04:14:16AM +0100, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 11, 2024 at 11:02:32PM +0100, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> > > How many instructions it takes for a late RETRY for WRITEs to private file
> > > mappings, fallback to mmap_sem?
> > 
> > Doesn't matter.  That happens _once_ per VMA, and it's dwarfed by the
> > cost of allocating and initialising the COWed page.  You're adding
> > instructions to every single page fault.  I'm not happy that we had to
> > add extra instructions to the fault path for single-threaded programs,
> > but we at least had the justification that we were improving scalability
> > on large systems.  Your excuse is "it makes the code cleaner".  And
> > honestly, I don't think it even does that.
> 
> Suren, what would you think to this?
> 
> diff --git a/mm/memory.c b/mm/memory.c
> index 6e2fe960473d..e495adcbe968 100644
> --- a/mm/memory.c
> +++ b/mm/memory.c
> @@ -5821,15 +5821,6 @@ struct vm_area_struct *lock_vma_under_rcu(struct mm_struct *mm,
>         if (!vma_start_read(vma))
>                 goto inval;
> 
> -       /*
> -        * find_mergeable_anon_vma uses adjacent vmas which are not locked.
> -        * This check must happen after vma_start_read(); otherwise, a
> -        * concurrent mremap() with MREMAP_DONTUNMAP could dissociate the VMA
> -        * from its anon_vma.
> -        */
> -       if (unlikely(vma_is_anonymous(vma) && !vma->anon_vma))
> -               goto inval_end_read;
> -
>         /* Check since vm_start/vm_end might change before we lock the VMA */
>         if (unlikely(address < vma->vm_start || address >= vma->vm_end))
>                 goto inval_end_read;
> 
> That takes a few insns out of the page fault path (good!) at the cost
> of one extra trip around the fault handler for the first fault on an
> anon vma.  It makes the file & anon paths more similar to each other
> (good!)
> 
> We'd need some data to be sure it's really a win, but less code is
> always good.

You at least need two things:

  (1) don't throw away Jann's comment so easily

  (2) have a look on whether anon memory has the fallback yet, at all

Maybe someone can already comment in a harsh way on this one, but no, I'm
not going to be like that.

I still don't understand why you don't like so much to not fallback at all
if we could, the flags I checked was all in hot cache I think anyway.

And since I'm also enough on how you comment in your previous replies, I'll
leave the rest comments for others.

-- 
Peter Xu



  reply	other threads:[~2024-04-12 12:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-04-10 17:06 Peter Xu
2024-04-10 20:26 ` Matthew Wilcox
     [not found]   ` <Zhb6B8UsidEEbFu3@x1n>
2024-04-10 21:10     ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-04-10 21:23       ` Peter Xu
2024-04-10 23:59         ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-04-11  0:20           ` Peter Xu
2024-04-11 14:50             ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-04-11 15:34               ` Peter Xu
2024-04-11 17:14                 ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-04-11 15:42   ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-04-11 17:13 ` Liam R. Howlett
     [not found]   ` <ZhhSItiyLYBEdAX3@x1n>
2024-04-11 21:27     ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-04-11 21:46       ` Peter Xu
2024-04-11 22:02         ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-04-12  3:14           ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-04-12 12:38             ` Peter Xu [this message]
2024-04-12 13:06               ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-04-12 14:16                 ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-04-12 14:53                   ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-04-12 15:19                     ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-04-12 15:31                       ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-04-13 21:46                         ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-04-13 22:52                           ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-04-13 23:11                             ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-04-13 21:41                       ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-04-13 22:46                         ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-04-15 15:58                       ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-04-15 16:13                         ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-04-15 16:19                           ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-04-15 16:26                             ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-04-12 12:46             ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-04-12 13:32               ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-04-12 13:46                 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-04-26 14:00             ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-04-26 15:07               ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-04-26 15:28                 ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-04-26 15:32                   ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-04-26 15:50                     ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-04-26 15:32                 ` Liam R. Howlett

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