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From: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
To: Luis Chamberlain <mcgrof@kernel.org>
Cc: "kbus @pop.gmail.com>> Keith Busch" <kbusch@kernel.org>,
	NeilBrown <neilb@suse.de>, "Tso Ted" <tytso@mit.edu>,
	"Matthew Wilcox" <willy@infradead.org>,
	"Daniel Gomez" <da.gomez@samsung.com>,
	"Pankaj Raghav" <p.raghav@samsung.com>, "Jan Kara" <jack@suse.cz>,
	"Bart Van Assche" <bvanassche@acm.org>,
	"Christoph Hellwig" <hch@infradead.org>,
	"Hannes Reinecke" <hare@suse.de>,
	"Javier González" <javier.gonz@samsung.com>,
	lsf-pc@lists.linuxfoundation.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-block@vger.kernel.org, linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org,
	"linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org" <linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [LSF/MM/BPF TOPIC] Large block for I/O
Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2024 16:31:48 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZelRRFTBvpyXeVGD@dread.disaster.area> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZekfZdchUnRZoebo@bombadil.infradead.org>

On Wed, Mar 06, 2024 at 05:59:01PM -0800, Luis Chamberlain wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 26, 2024 at 07:25:23AM -0800, Luis Chamberlain wrote:
> root@frag ~/bcc (git::blkalgn)# cat
> /sys/block/vdh/queue/physical_block_size 
> 4096
> root@frag ~/bcc (git::blkalgn)# cat
> /sys/block/vdh/queue/logical_block_size 
> 512

This device supports 512 byte aligned IOs.

> mkfs.xfs -f -b size=4k -s size=4k /dev/vdh

This sets the filesystem block size to 4k, and the smallest metadata
block size to 4kB (sector size). It does not force user data direct
IO alignment to be 4kB - that is determined by what the underlying
block device supports, not the filesystem block size or metadata
sector size is set to.

Sure, doing 512 byte aligned/sized IO to a 4kB sector sizer device
is not optimal. IO will to the file will be completely serialised
because they are sub-fs-block DIO writes, but it does work because
the underlying device allows it. Nobody wanting a performant
application will want to do this, but there are cases where this
case fulfils important functional requirements.

e.g. fs tools and loop devices that use direct IO to access file
based filesystem images that have 512 byte sector size will just
work on such a fs and storage setup, even though the host filesystem
isn't configured to use 512 byte sector alignment directly
itself....

-Dave.
-- 
Dave Chinner
david@fromorbit.com


  reply	other threads:[~2024-03-07  5:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <7970ad75-ca6a-34b9-43ea-c6f67fe6eae6@iogearbox.net>
2023-12-20 10:01 ` LSF/MM/BPF: 2024: Call for Proposals Daniel Borkmann
2023-12-20 15:03   ` [LSF/MM/BPF TOPIC] Large block for I/O Hannes Reinecke
2023-12-21 20:33     ` Bart Van Assche
2023-12-21 20:42       ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-12-21 21:00         ` Bart Van Assche
2023-12-22  5:09       ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-12-22  5:13       ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-12-22  5:37         ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-01-08 19:30           ` Bart Van Assche
2024-01-08 19:35             ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-02-22 18:45               ` Luis Chamberlain
2024-02-25 23:09                 ` Dave Chinner
2024-02-26 15:25                   ` Luis Chamberlain
2024-03-07  1:59                     ` Luis Chamberlain
2024-03-07  5:31                       ` Dave Chinner [this message]
2024-03-07  7:29                         ` Luis Chamberlain
2023-12-22  8:23       ` Viacheslav Dubeyko
2023-12-22 12:29         ` Hannes Reinecke
2023-12-22 13:29           ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-12-22 15:10         ` Keith Busch
2023-12-22 16:06           ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-12-25  8:55             ` Viacheslav Dubeyko
2023-12-25  8:12           ` Viacheslav Dubeyko
2024-02-23 16:41     ` Pankaj Raghav (Samsung)
2024-01-17 13:37   ` LSF/MM/BPF: 2024: Call for Proposals [Reminder] Daniel Borkmann
2024-02-14 13:03     ` LSF/MM/BPF: 2024: Call for Proposals [Final Reminder] Daniel Borkmann

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