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From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
To: Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>, bpf <bpf@vger.kernel.org>,
	Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
	Andrii Nakryiko <andrii@kernel.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Barret Rhoden <brho@google.com>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Lorenzo Stoakes <lstoakes@gmail.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Uladzislau Rezki <urezki@gmail.com>,
	linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>, Kernel Team <kernel-team@fb.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH bpf-next] mm: Introduce vm_area_[un]map_pages().
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2024 09:14:37 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZdjSfSBu2yO1Z8Tq@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAADnVQLrUpJizoVeYjFwSEPg1Eo=ACR-Gf5LWhD=c-KnnOTKuA@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Feb 21, 2024 at 11:05:09AM -0800, Alexei Starovoitov wrote:
> +#define VM_BPF                 0x00000800      /* bpf_arena pages */
> 
> +static inline struct vm_struct *get_bpf_vm_area(unsigned long size)
> +{
> +       return get_vm_area(size, VM_BPF);
> +}
> 
> and enforce that flag in vm_area_[un]map_pages() ?
> 
> vmallocinfo can display it or skip it.
> Things like find_vm_area() can do something different with such an area
> (if that was the concern).

Well, a growing allocation is a generally useful feature.  I'd
rather not limit it to bpf if we can.

> > For the dynamically growing part do you need a special allocator or
> > can we just go straight to the page allocator and implement this
> > in common code?
> 
> It's a bit special allocator that is using maple tree to manage
> range within 4G region and
> alloc_pages_node(GFP_KERNEL | __GFP_ZERO | __GFP_ACCOUNT)
> to grab pages.
> With extra dance:
>         memcg = bpf_map_get_memcg(map);
>         old_memcg = set_active_memcg(memcg);
> to make sure memcg accounting is done the common way for all bpf maps.

Ok, so it's not just a growing allocation but actually sparse and
all over the place?  That doesn't really make it easier to come
up with a good enough interface.  How do you decide what gets placed
where?

> struct vm_struct *area = get_sparse_vm_area(size);
> vm_area_alloc_pages(struct vm_struct *area, ulong addr, int page_cnt,
> int numa_id);
> 
> and vm_area_alloc_pages() will allocate pages and vmap_pages_range()
> them while all code in mm/vmalloc.c ?

My vague hope was that we could just start out with an area and
grow it.  But it sounds like you need something much more complex
that that.

But yes, a more specific API is probably a better idea.  And maybe
the cookie should be a VM area either but a structure dedicated to
this.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-02-23 17:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-02-20 19:26 Alexei Starovoitov
2024-02-21  5:52 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-02-21 19:05   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-02-22 23:25     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-02-24  0:00       ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-02-23 17:14     ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2024-02-23 17:27       ` Alexei Starovoitov

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