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From: Deepak Gupta <debug@rivosinc.com>
To: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v1 09/28] mm: abstract shadow stack vma behind `arch_is_shadow_stack`
Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2024 17:32:56 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZdakSM7KcXGgOoU6@debug.ba.rivosinc.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <45d5b98c-bad8-471d-a285-47f47c5b50bb@redhat.com>

On Tue, Feb 13, 2024 at 11:34:59AM +0100, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>On 25.01.24 18:07, Deepak Gupta wrote:
>>On Thu, Jan 25, 2024 at 09:18:07AM +0100, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>>>On 25.01.24 07:21, debug@rivosinc.com wrote:
>>>>From: Deepak Gupta <debug@rivosinc.com>
>>>>
>>>>x86 has used VM_SHADOW_STACK (alias to VM_HIGH_ARCH_5) to encode shadow
>>>>stack VMA. VM_SHADOW_STACK is thus not possible on 32bit. Some arches may
>>>>need a way to encode shadow stack on 32bit and 64bit both and they may
>>>>encode this information differently in VMAs.
>>>>
>>>>This patch changes checks of VM_SHADOW_STACK flag in generic code to call
>>>>to a function `arch_is_shadow_stack` which will return true if arch
>>>>supports shadow stack and vma is shadow stack else stub returns false.
>>>>
>>>>There was a suggestion to name it as `vma_is_shadow_stack`. I preferred to
>>>>keep `arch` prefix in there because it's each arch specific.
>>>>
>>>>Signed-off-by: Deepak Gupta <debug@rivosinc.com>
>>>>---
>>>>  include/linux/mm.h | 18 +++++++++++++++++-
>>>>  mm/gup.c           |  5 +++--
>>>>  mm/internal.h      |  2 +-
>>>>  3 files changed, 21 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-)
>>>>
>>>>diff --git a/include/linux/mm.h b/include/linux/mm.h
>>>>index dfe0e8118669..15c70fc677a3 100644
>>>>--- a/include/linux/mm.h
>>>>+++ b/include/linux/mm.h
>>>>@@ -352,6 +352,10 @@ extern unsigned int kobjsize(const void *objp);
>>>>   * for more details on the guard size.
>>>>   */
>>>>  # define VM_SHADOW_STACK	VM_HIGH_ARCH_5
>>>>+static inline bool arch_is_shadow_stack(vm_flags_t vm_flags)
>>>>+{
>>>>+	return (vm_flags & VM_SHADOW_STACK);
>>>>+}
>>>>  #endif
>>>>  #ifdef CONFIG_RISCV_USER_CFI
>>>>@@ -362,10 +366,22 @@ extern unsigned int kobjsize(const void *objp);
>>>>   * with VM_SHARED.
>>>>   */
>>>>  #define VM_SHADOW_STACK	VM_WRITE
>>>>+
>>>>+static inline bool arch_is_shadow_stack(vm_flags_t vm_flags)
>>>>+{
>>>>+	return ((vm_flags & (VM_WRITE | VM_READ | VM_EXEC)) == VM_WRITE);
>>>>+}
>>>>+
>>>
>>>Please no such hacks just to work around the 32bit vmflags limitation.
>>
>>As I said in another response. Noted.
>>And if there're no takers for 32bit on riscv (which highly likely is the case)
>>This will go away in next version of patchsets.
>
>Sorry for the (unusually for me) late reply. Simplifying to riscv64 
>sounds great.
>
>Alternatively, maybe VM_SHADOW_STACK is not even required at all on 
>riscv if we can teach all code to only stare at arch_is_shadow_stack() 
>instead.

Sorry for late reply.

I think for risc-v this can be done, if done in following way

static inline bool arch_is_shadow_stack(struct vm_flags_t vm_flags)
{
		return (vm_get_page_prot(vm_flags) == PAGE_SHADOWSTACK);
}

But doing above will require following

- Inventing a new PROT_XXX type (let's call it PROT_SHADOWSTACK) that
   is only exposed to kernel. PROT_SHADOWSTACK protection flag would allow
   `do_mmap` to do right thing and setup appropriate protection perms.
   We wouldn't want to expose this protection type to user mode (because
   `map_shadow_stack` already exists for that).
   Current patch series uses PROT_SHADOWSTACK because VM_SHADOW_STACK was
   aliased to VM_WRITE.

- As you said teach all the generic code as well to use arch_is_shadow_stack
   which might become complicated (can't say for sure)


>
>... but, just using the same VM_SHADOW_STACK will it all much cleaner. 
>Eventually, we can just stop playing arch-specific games with 
>arch_is_shadow_stack and VM_SHADOW_STACK.

Yeah for now, looks like easier thing to do.

>
>-- 
>Cheers,
>
>David / dhildenb
>


  reply	other threads:[~2024-02-22  1:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-01-25  6:21 [RFC PATCH v1 00/28] riscv control-flow integrity for usermode debug
2024-01-25  6:21 ` [RFC PATCH v1 01/28] riscv: abstract envcfg CSR debug
2024-02-12 10:23   ` Andrew Jones
2024-01-25  6:21 ` [RFC PATCH v1 02/28] riscv: envcfg save and restore on trap entry/exit debug
2024-01-25  7:19   ` Stefan O'Rear
2024-01-25 17:09     ` Deepak Gupta
2024-01-25 17:54       ` Deepak Gupta
2024-01-25  6:21 ` [RFC PATCH v1 03/28] riscv: define default value for envcfg debug
2024-01-25  6:21 ` [RFC PATCH v1 04/28] riscv/Kconfig: enable HAVE_EXIT_THREAD for riscv debug
2024-01-25  6:21 ` [RFC PATCH v1 05/28] riscv: zicfiss/zicfilp enumeration debug
2024-01-25 17:59   ` Conor Dooley
2024-01-25 18:26     ` Deepak Gupta
2024-01-25 18:46       ` Conor Dooley
2024-01-25  6:21 ` [RFC PATCH v1 06/28] riscv: zicfiss/zicfilp extension csr and bit definitions debug
2024-01-25  6:21 ` [RFC PATCH v1 07/28] riscv: kernel handling on trap entry/exit for user cfi debug
2024-01-25  7:29   ` Stefan O'Rear
2024-01-25 17:30     ` Deepak Gupta
2024-01-25 19:47       ` Stefan O'Rear
2024-01-26  0:25         ` Deepak Gupta
2024-01-25  6:21 ` [RFC PATCH v1 08/28] mm: Define VM_SHADOW_STACK for RISC-V debug
2024-01-25  8:17   ` David Hildenbrand
2024-01-25 17:05     ` Deepak Gupta
2024-01-25  6:21 ` [RFC PATCH v1 09/28] mm: abstract shadow stack vma behind `arch_is_shadow_stack` debug
2024-01-25  8:18   ` David Hildenbrand
2024-01-25 17:07     ` Deepak Gupta
2024-02-13 10:34       ` David Hildenbrand
2024-02-22  1:32         ` Deepak Gupta [this message]
2024-01-25  6:21 ` [RFC PATCH v1 10/28] riscv/mm : Introducing new protection flag "PROT_SHADOWSTACK" debug
2024-01-25  6:21 ` [RFC PATCH v1 11/28] riscv: Implementing "PROT_SHADOWSTACK" on riscv debug
     [not found]   ` <2914cf78e47010e195d963857b37807e8446e3be.camel@intel.com>
2024-02-22  0:39     ` Deepak Gupta
2024-01-25  6:21 ` [RFC PATCH v1 12/28] riscv mm: manufacture shadow stack pte debug
2024-01-25  6:21 ` [RFC PATCH v1 13/28] riscv mmu: teach pte_mkwrite to manufacture shadow stack PTEs debug
2024-01-25  6:21 ` [RFC PATCH v1 14/28] riscv mmu: write protect and shadow stack debug
2024-01-25  6:21 ` [RFC PATCH v1 15/28] riscv/mm: Implement map_shadow_stack() syscall debug
2024-01-25 21:24   ` Charlie Jenkins
2024-01-26  0:44     ` Deepak Gupta
2024-02-06 16:01   ` Mark Brown
2024-02-22  0:47     ` Deepak Gupta
2024-02-22 13:33       ` Mark Brown
     [not found]   ` <ba45e69f69851721419b84f1ff8b66a490f92c86.camel@intel.com>
2024-02-22  0:50     ` Deepak Gupta
2024-01-25  6:21 ` [RFC PATCH v1 16/28] riscv/shstk: If needed allocate a new shadow stack on clone debug
2024-01-25  6:21 ` [RFC PATCH v1 17/28] prctl: arch-agnostic prctl for shadow stack debug
2024-01-25  6:21 ` [RFC PATCH v1 18/28] prctl: arch-agnostic prtcl for indirect branch tracking debug
2024-02-06 16:13   ` Mark Brown
2024-02-22  0:42     ` Deepak Gupta
2024-01-25  6:21 ` [RFC PATCH v1 19/28] riscv: Implements arch agnostic shadow stack prctls debug
2024-01-25  6:21 ` [RFC PATCH v1 20/28] riscv: Implements arch argnostic indirect branch tracking prctls debug
2024-01-25  6:21 ` [RFC PATCH v1 21/28] riscv/traps: Introduce software check exception debug
2024-01-25  6:21 ` [RFC PATCH v1 22/28] riscv sigcontext: adding cfi state field in sigcontext debug
2024-01-25  6:21 ` [RFC PATCH v1 23/28] riscv signal: Save and restore of shadow stack for signal debug
2024-01-25  6:21 ` [RFC PATCH v1 24/28] riscv: select config for shadow stack and landing pad instr support debug
2024-01-25 18:04   ` Conor Dooley
2024-01-25 18:12     ` Deepak Gupta
2024-01-25 18:44       ` Conor Dooley
2024-01-25 19:26         ` Deepak Gupta
2024-01-25  6:21 ` [RFC PATCH v1 25/28] riscv/ptrace: riscv cfi status and state via ptrace and in core files debug
2024-01-25  6:21 ` [RFC PATCH v1 26/28] riscv: Documentation for landing pad / indirect branch tracking debug
2024-01-25  6:21 ` [RFC PATCH v1 27/28] riscv: Documentation for shadow stack on riscv debug
2024-01-25  6:21 ` [RFC PATCH v1 28/28] kselftest/riscv: kselftest for user mode cfi debug

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