From: Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>
To: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
Cc: Kairui Song <ryncsn@gmail.com>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
"Huang, Ying" <ying.huang@intel.com>,
Chris Li <chrisl@kernel.org>, Yu Zhao <yuzhao@google.com>,
Barry Song <v-songbaohua@oppo.com>, SeongJae Park <sj@kernel.org>,
Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
Yosry Ahmed <yosryahmed@google.com>,
stable@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] mm/swap: fix race when skipping swapcache
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2024 12:55:11 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Zc56L6oL4JmxqaFN@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4c651673-132f-4cd8-997e-175f586fd2e6@redhat.com>
Hi David,
On Thu, Feb 15, 2024 at 09:03:28PM +0100, David Hildenbrand wrote:
< snip >
> > >
> > > We would detect later, that the PTE changed, but we would temporarily
> > > mess with that swap slot that we might no longer "own".
> > >
> > > I was thinking about alternatives, it's tricky because of the concurrent
> > > MADV_DONTNEED possibility. Something with another fake-swap entry type
> > > (similar to migration entries) might work, but would require more changes.
> >
> > Yeah, in the long term I also think more work is needed for the swap subsystem.
> >
> > In my opinion, for this particular issue, or, for cache bypassed
> > swapin, a new swap map value similar to SWAP_MAP_BAD/SWAP_MAP_SHMEM
> > might be needed, that may even help to simplify the swap count release
> > routine for cache bypassed swapin, and improve the performance.
>
> The question is if we really want to track that in the swapcache and not
> rather in the page table.
>
> Imagine the following:
>
> (1) allocate the folio and lock it (we do that already)
>
> (2) take the page table lock. If the PTE is still the same, insert a new
> "swapin_in_process" fake swp entry that references the locked folio.
>
> (3) read the folio from swap. This will unlock the folio IIUC. (we do that
> already)
>
> (4) relock the folio. (we do that already, might not want to fail)
>
> (4) take the PTE lock. If the PTE did not change, turn it into a present PTE
> entry. Otherwise, cleanup.
>
>
> Any concurrent swap-in users would spot the new "swapin_in_process" fake swp
> entry and wait for the page lock (just like we do with migration entries).
>
> Zap code would mostly only clear the "swapin_in_process" fake swp entry and
> leave the cleanup to (4) above. Fortunately, concurrent fork() is impossible
> as that cannot race with page faults.
>
> There might be one minor thing to optimize with the folio lock above. But in
> essence, it would work just like migration entries, just that they are
> installed only while we actually do read the content from disk etc.
That's a great idea. I was thinking to have the synchronization in the
page table but couldn't reach to the other non_swap_entry idea.
Only concern of the approach is that it would be harder to have the fix
in the stable tree. If there isn't strong objection, I prefer the
Kairui's orginal solution(with some tweak of scheduler if it's
necessary) first and then pursue your idea on latest tree.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-02-15 20:55 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-02-06 18:25 Kairui Song
2024-02-06 18:44 ` SeongJae Park
2024-02-06 23:02 ` Minchan Kim
2024-02-07 3:22 ` Kairui Song
2024-02-06 23:10 ` Chris Li
2024-02-06 23:40 ` Barry Song
2024-02-07 2:03 ` Chris Li
2024-02-07 2:20 ` Kairui Song
2024-02-07 1:52 ` Barry Song
2024-02-07 3:21 ` Kairui Song
2024-02-07 4:01 ` Chris Li
2024-02-07 4:06 ` Kairui Song
2024-02-07 18:31 ` Minchan Kim
2024-02-08 6:04 ` Kairui Song
2024-02-08 6:34 ` Huang, Ying
2024-02-08 19:01 ` Kairui Song
2024-02-08 19:42 ` Chris Li
2024-02-09 5:30 ` Kairui Song
2024-02-12 19:53 ` Kairui Song
2024-02-15 0:44 ` Minchan Kim
2024-02-15 19:07 ` Kairui Song
2024-02-19 5:42 ` Huang, Ying
2024-02-08 7:16 ` Barry Song
2024-02-07 2:08 ` Huang, Ying
2024-02-07 2:28 ` Kairui Song
2024-02-07 3:44 ` Huang, Ying
2024-02-07 3:45 ` Barry Song
2024-02-07 4:16 ` Huang, Ying
2024-02-07 4:24 ` Barry Song
2024-02-15 15:36 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-02-15 18:49 ` Kairui Song
2024-02-15 20:03 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-02-15 20:55 ` Minchan Kim [this message]
2024-02-15 22:58 ` Andrew Morton
2024-02-16 10:01 ` Kairui Song
2024-02-16 7:11 ` Kairui Song
2024-02-16 16:16 ` David Hildenbrand
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