From: sergeh@kernel.org
To: Roberto Sassu <roberto.sassu@huaweicloud.com>
Cc: Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>,
Kees Cook <kees@kernel.org>, Paul Moore <paul@paul-moore.com>,
James Morris <jmorris@namei.org>,
"Serge E. Hallyn" <serge@hallyn.com>,
"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org,
linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org, zohar@linux.ibm.com
Subject: Re: Credentials not fully initialized before bprm_check LSM hook
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2025 17:24:08 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z_f-uBGhBq9CYmaw@lei> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <fb9f7900d411a3ab752759d818c3da78e2f8f0f1.camel@huaweicloud.com>
On Thu, Apr 10, 2025 at 01:47:07PM +0200, Roberto Sassu wrote:
> Hi everyone
>
> recently I discovered a problem in the implementation of our IMA
> bprm_check hook, in particular when the policy is matched against the
> bprm credentials (to be committed later during execve().
>
> Before commit 56305aa9b6fab ("exec: Compute file based creds only
> once"), bprm_fill_uid() was called in prepare_binprm() and filled the
> euid/egid before calling security_bprm_check(), which in turns calls
> IMA.
>
> After that commit, bprm_fill_uid() was moved to begin_new_exec(), which
> is when the last interpreter is found.
>
> The consequence is that IMA still sees the not yet ready credentials
> and an IMA rule like:
>
> measure func=CREDS_CHECK euid=0
"IMA still sees" at which point exactly?
Do I understand right that the problem is that ima's version of
security_bprm_creds_for_exec() needs to run after
bprm_creds_from_file()?
Given that Eric's commit message said that no bprm handlers use
the uid, it seems it should be safe to just move that?
> will not be matched for sudo-like applications.
>
> It does work however with SELinux, because it computes the transition
> before IMA in the bprm_creds_for_exec hook.
>
> Since IMA needs to be involved for each execution in the chain of
> interpreters, we cannot move to the bprm_creds_from_file hook.
>
> How do we solve this problem? The commit mentioned that it is an
> optimization, so probably would not be too hard to partially revert it
> (and keeping what is good).
>
> Thanks
>
> Roberto
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-04-10 17:24 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-04-10 11:47 Roberto Sassu
2025-04-10 17:24 ` sergeh [this message]
2025-04-11 9:07 ` Roberto Sassu
2025-04-11 22:14 ` Paul Moore
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