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From: Gregory Price <gregory.price@memverge.com>
To: "Huang, Ying" <ying.huang@intel.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 00/11] mempolicy2, mbind2, and weighted interleave
Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2023 02:26:21 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZYqAHesihJ+XCCyy@memverge.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87zfy5libp.fsf@yhuang6-desk2.ccr.corp.intel.com>

On Wed, Dec 20, 2023 at 10:27:06AM +0800, Huang, Ying wrote:
> Gregory Price <gregory.price@memverge.com> writes:
> 
> > Assuming we remove policy_node altogether... do we still break up the
> > set/get interface into separate structures to avoid this in the future?
> 
> I have no much experience at ABI definition.  So, I want to get guidance
> from more experienced people on this.
> 
> Is it good to implement all functionality of get_mempolicy() with
> get_mempolicy2(), so we can deprecate get_mempolicy() and remove it
> finally?  So, users don't need to use 2 similar syscalls?
> 
> And, IIUC, we will not get policy_node, addr_node, and policy config at
> the same time, is it better to use a union instead of struct in
> get_mempolicy2()?
> 

We discussed using flags to change the operation of mempolicy earlier
and it was expressed that multiplexing syscalls via flags is no longer
a preferred design because it increases complexity in the long term.

The mems_allowed extension to get_mempolicy() is basically this kind of
multiplexing.  So ultimately I think it better to simply remove that
functionality from get_mempolicy2().

Further: it's not even technically *part* of mempolicy, it's part of
cpusets, and is accessible via sysfs through some combination of
cpuset.mems and cpuset.mems.effective.

So the mems_allowed part of get_mempolicy() has already been deprecated
in that way.  Doesn't seem worth it to add it to mempolicy2.


The `policy_node` is more of a question as to whether it's even useful.
Right now it only applies to interleave policies... but it's also
insanely racey.  The moment you pluck the next interleave target, it's
liable to change.  I don't know how anyone would even use this.

If we drop it, we can alway add it back in with an extension if someone
actually has a use-case for it and we decide to fully deprecate
get_mempolicy() (which seems unlikely, btw).


In either case, the extension I made allows get_mempolicy() to be used
to fetch policy_node via the original method, for new policies, so that
would cover it if anyone is actually using it.

~Gregory


  reply	other threads:[~2023-12-27 16:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-12-18 19:46 Gregory Price
2023-12-18 19:46 ` [PATCH v4 07/11] mm/mempolicy: add userland mempolicy arg structure Gregory Price
2023-12-18 19:46 ` [PATCH v4 10/11] mm/mempolicy: add the mbind2 syscall Gregory Price
2023-12-19 12:24   ` kernel test robot
2023-12-20  0:48   ` kernel test robot
2023-12-19  3:04 ` [PATCH v4 00/11] mempolicy2, mbind2, and weighted interleave Huang, Ying
2023-12-19 18:09   ` Gregory Price
2023-12-20  2:27     ` Huang, Ying
2023-12-26  7:26       ` Gregory Price [this message]
2024-01-02  4:08         ` Huang, Ying
     [not found] ` <20231218194631.21667-12-gregory.price@memverge.com>
2023-12-19  3:07   ` [PATCH v4 11/11] mm/mempolicy: extend set_mempolicy2 and mbind2 to support " Huang, Ying
2023-12-19 18:12     ` Gregory Price
2024-01-03 11:16   ` Dan Carpenter

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