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From: Gregory Price <gregory.price@memverge.com>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
Cc: "tj@kernel.org" <tj@kernel.org>,
	John Groves <john@jagalactic.com>,
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v4 0/3] memcg weighted interleave mempolicy control
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2023 10:50:51 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZVOXWx8XNJJNC23A@memverge.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZVNBMW8iJIGDyp0y@tiehlicka>

On Tue, Nov 14, 2023 at 10:43:13AM +0100, Michal Hocko wrote:
> On Fri 10-11-23 22:42:39, Gregory Price wrote:
> [...]
> > If I can ask, do you think it would be out of line to propose a major
> > refactor to mempolicy to enable external task's the ability to change a
> > running task's mempolicy *as well as* a cgroup-wide mempolicy component?
> 
> No, I actually think this is a reasonable idea. pidfd_setmempolicy is a
> generally useful extension. The mempolicy code is heavily current task
> based and there might be some challenges but I believe this will a)
> improve the code base and b) allow more usecases.

Just read up on the pidfd_set_mempolicy lore, and yes I'm seeing all the
same problems (I know there was discussion of vma policies, but i think
that can be a topic for later).  Have some thoughts on this, but will
take some time to work through a few refactoring tickets first.

> 
> That being said, I still believe that a cgroup based interface is a much
> better choice over a global one. Cpusets seem to be a good fit as the
> controller does control memory placement wrt NUMA interfaces.

I think cpusets is a non-starter due to the global spinlock required when
reading informaiton from it:

https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/latest/source/kernel/cgroup/cpuset.c#L391

Unless the proposal is to place the weights as a global cgroups value,
in which case I think it would be better placed in default_mempolicy :]


  reply	other threads:[~2023-11-14 15:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-11-09  0:25 Gregory Price
2023-11-09  0:25 ` [RFC PATCH v4 1/3] mm/memcontrol: implement memcg.interleave_weights Gregory Price
2023-11-09  0:25 ` [RFC PATCH v4 2/3] mm/mempolicy: implement weighted interleave Gregory Price
2023-11-10 15:26   ` Ravi Jonnalagadda
2023-11-09  0:25 ` [RFC PATCH v4 3/3] Documentation: sysfs entries for cgroup.memory.interleave_weights Gregory Price
2023-11-09 10:02 ` [RFC PATCH v4 0/3] memcg weighted interleave mempolicy control Michal Hocko
2023-11-09 15:10   ` Gregory Price
2023-11-09 16:34   ` Gregory Price
2023-11-10  9:05     ` Michal Hocko
2023-11-10 21:24       ` Gregory Price
     [not found] ` <klhcqksrg7uvdrf6hoi5tegifycjltz2kx2d62hapmw3ulr7oa@woibsnrpgox4>
2023-11-09 22:48   ` John Groves
2023-11-10 22:05     ` tj
2023-11-10 22:29       ` Gregory Price
2023-11-11  3:05         ` tj
2023-11-11  3:42           ` Gregory Price
2023-11-11 11:16             ` tj
2023-11-11 23:54               ` Dan Williams
2023-11-13  2:22                 ` Gregory Price
2023-11-14  9:43             ` Michal Hocko
2023-11-14 15:50               ` Gregory Price [this message]
2023-11-14 17:01                 ` Michal Hocko
2023-11-14 17:49                   ` Gregory Price
2023-11-15  5:56                     ` Huang, Ying
2023-12-04  3:33                       ` Gregory Price
2023-12-04  8:19                         ` Huang, Ying
2023-12-04 13:50                           ` Gregory Price
2023-12-05  9:01                             ` Huang, Ying
2023-12-05 14:47                               ` Gregory Price
2023-12-06  0:50                                 ` Huang, Ying
2023-12-06  2:01                                   ` Gregory Price
2023-11-10  6:16 ` Huang, Ying
2023-11-10 19:54   ` Gregory Price
2023-11-13  1:31     ` Huang, Ying
2023-11-13  2:28       ` Gregory Price

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