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From: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>
To: Hyesoo Yu <hyesoo.yu@samsung.com>
Cc: Alexandru Elisei <alexandru.elisei@arm.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 06/37] mm: page_alloc: Allocate from movable pcp lists only if ALLOC_FROM_METADATA
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2023 11:50:19 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZTZP66CA1r35yTmp@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20231023071656.GA344850@tiffany>

On Mon, Oct 23, 2023 at 04:16:56PM +0900, Hyesoo Yu wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 17, 2023 at 11:26:36AM +0100, Catalin Marinas wrote:
> > BTW, I suggest for the next iteration we drop MIGRATE_METADATA, only use
> > CMA and assume that the tag storage itself supports tagging. Hopefully
> > it makes the patches a bit simpler.
> 
> I am curious about the plan for the next iteration.

Alex is working on it.

> Does tag storage itself supports tagging? Will the following version be unusable
> if the hardware does not support it? The document of google said that 
> "If this memory is itself mapped as Tagged Normal (which should not happen!)
> then tag updates on it either raise a fault or do nothing, but never change the
> contents of any other page."
> (https://github.com/google/sanitizers/blob/master/mte-dynamic-carveout/spec.md)
> 
> The support of H/W is very welcome because it is good to make the patches simpler.
> But if H/W doesn't support it, Can't the new solution be used?

AFAIK on the current interconnects this is supported but the offsets
will need to be configured by firmware in such a way that a tag access
to the tag carve-out range still points to physical RAM, otherwise, as
per Google's doc, you can get some unexpected behaviour.

Let's take a simplified example, we have:

  phys_addr - physical address, linearised, starting from 0
  ram_size - the size of RAM (also corresponds to the end of PA+1)

A typical configuration is to designate the top 1/32 of RAM for tags:

  tag_offset = ram_size - ram_size / 32
  tag_carveout_start = tag_offset

The tag address for a given phys_addr is calculated as:

  tag_addr = phys_addr / 32 + tag_offset

To keep things simple, we reserve the top 1/(32*32) of the RAM as tag
storage for the main/reusable tag carveout.

  tag_carveout2_start = tag_carveout_start / 32 + tag_offset

This gives us the end of the first reusable carveout:

  tag_carveout_end = tag_carveout2_start - 1

and this way in Linux we can have (inclusive ranges):

  0..(tag_carveout_start-1): normal memory, data only
  tag_carveout_start..tag_carveout_end: CMA, reused as tags or data
  tag_carveout2_start..(ram_size-1): reserved for tags (not touched by the OS)

For this to work, we need the last page in the first carveout to have
a tag storage within RAM. And, of course, all of the above need to be at
least 4K aligned.

The simple configuration of 1/(32*32) of RAM for the second carveout is
sufficient but not fully utilised. We could be a bit more efficient to
gain a few more pages. Apart from the page alignment requirements, the
only strict requirement we need is:

  tag_carverout2_end < ram_size

where tag_carveout2_end is the tag storage corresponding to the end of
the main/reusable carveout, just before tag_carveout2_start:

  tag_carveout2_end = tag_carveout_end / 32 + tag_offset

Assuming that my on-paper substitutions are correct, the inequality
above becomes:

  tag_offset < (1024 * ram_size + 32) / 1057

and tag_offset is a multiple of PAGE_SIZE * 32 (so that the
tag_carveout2_start is a multiple of PAGE_SIZE).

As a concrete example, for 16GB of RAM starting from 0:

  tag_offset = 0x3e0060000
  tag_carverout2_start = 0x3ff063000

Without the optimal placement, the default tag_offset of top 1/32 of RAM
would have been:

  tag_offset = 0x3e0000000
  tag_carveou2_start = 0x3ff000000

so an extra 396KB gained with optimal placement (out of 16G, not sure
it's worth).

One can put the calculations in some python script to get the optimal
tag offset in case I got something wrong on paper.

-- 
Catalin


  reply	other threads:[~2023-10-23 10:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-08-23 13:13 [PATCH RFC 00/37] Add support for arm64 MTE dynamic tag storage reuse Alexandru Elisei
2023-08-23 13:13 ` [PATCH RFC 01/37] mm: page_alloc: Rename gfp_to_alloc_flags_cma -> gfp_to_alloc_flags_fast Alexandru Elisei
2023-08-23 13:13 ` [PATCH RFC 02/37] arm64: mte: Rework naming for tag manipulation functions Alexandru Elisei
2023-08-23 13:13 ` [PATCH RFC 03/37] arm64: mte: Rename __GFP_ZEROTAGS to __GFP_TAGGED Alexandru Elisei
2023-08-23 13:13 ` [PATCH RFC 04/37] mm: Add MIGRATE_METADATA allocation policy Alexandru Elisei
     [not found]   ` <CGME20231012013834epcas2p28ff3162673294077caef3b0794b69e72@epcas2p2.samsung.com>
2023-10-12  1:28     ` Hyesoo Yu
2023-10-16 12:40       ` Alexandru Elisei
2023-10-23  7:52         ` Hyesoo Yu
2023-08-23 13:13 ` [PATCH RFC 05/37] mm: Add memory statistics for the " Alexandru Elisei
2023-08-23 13:13 ` [PATCH RFC 06/37] mm: page_alloc: Allocate from movable pcp lists only if ALLOC_FROM_METADATA Alexandru Elisei
     [not found]   ` <CGME20231012013524epcas2p4b50f306e3e4d0b937b31f978022844e5@epcas2p4.samsung.com>
2023-10-12  1:25     ` Hyesoo Yu
2023-10-16 12:41       ` Alexandru Elisei
2023-10-17 10:26         ` Catalin Marinas
2023-10-23  7:16           ` Hyesoo Yu
2023-10-23 10:50             ` Catalin Marinas [this message]
2023-10-23 11:55               ` David Hildenbrand
2023-10-23 17:08                 ` Catalin Marinas
2023-10-23 17:22                   ` David Hildenbrand
2023-08-23 13:13 ` [PATCH RFC 07/37] mm: page_alloc: Bypass pcp when freeing MIGRATE_METADATA pages Alexandru Elisei
2023-08-23 13:13 ` [PATCH RFC 08/37] mm: compaction: Account for free metadata pages in __compact_finished() Alexandru Elisei
2023-08-23 13:13 ` [PATCH RFC 09/37] mm: compaction: Handle metadata pages as source for direct compaction Alexandru Elisei
2023-08-23 13:13 ` [PATCH RFC 10/37] mm: compaction: Do not use MIGRATE_METADATA to replace pages with metadata Alexandru Elisei
2023-08-23 13:13 ` [PATCH RFC 11/37] mm: migrate/mempolicy: Allocate metadata-enabled destination page Alexandru Elisei
2023-08-23 13:13 ` [PATCH RFC 12/37] mm: gup: Don't allow longterm pinning of MIGRATE_METADATA pages Alexandru Elisei
2023-08-23 13:13 ` [PATCH RFC 13/37] arm64: mte: Reserve tag storage memory Alexandru Elisei
2023-08-23 13:13 ` [PATCH RFC 14/37] arm64: mte: Expose tag storage pages to the MIGRATE_METADATA freelist Alexandru Elisei
2023-08-23 13:13 ` [PATCH RFC 15/37] arm64: mte: Make tag storage depend on ARCH_KEEP_MEMBLOCK Alexandru Elisei
2023-08-23 13:13 ` [PATCH RFC 16/37] arm64: mte: Move tag storage to MIGRATE_MOVABLE when MTE is disabled Alexandru Elisei
2023-08-23 13:13 ` [PATCH RFC 17/37] arm64: mte: Disable dynamic tag storage management if HW KASAN is enabled Alexandru Elisei
     [not found]   ` <CGME20231012014514epcas2p3ca99a067f3044c5753309a08cd0b05c4@epcas2p3.samsung.com>
2023-10-12  1:35     ` Hyesoo Yu
2023-10-16 12:42       ` Alexandru Elisei
2023-08-23 13:13 ` [PATCH RFC 18/37] arm64: mte: Check that tag storage blocks are in the same zone Alexandru Elisei
2023-08-23 13:13 ` [PATCH RFC 19/37] mm: page_alloc: Manage metadata storage on page allocation Alexandru Elisei
2023-08-23 13:13 ` [PATCH RFC 20/37] mm: compaction: Reserve metadata storage in compaction_alloc() Alexandru Elisei
2023-11-21  4:49   ` Peter Collingbourne
2023-11-21 11:54     ` Alexandru Elisei
2023-08-23 13:13 ` [PATCH RFC 21/37] mm: khugepaged: Handle metadata-enabled VMAs Alexandru Elisei
2023-08-23 13:13 ` [PATCH RFC 22/37] mm: shmem: Allocate metadata storage for in-memory filesystems Alexandru Elisei
2023-08-23 13:13 ` [PATCH RFC 23/37] mm: Teach vma_alloc_folio() about metadata-enabled VMAs Alexandru Elisei
2023-08-23 13:13 ` [PATCH RFC 24/37] mm: page_alloc: Teach alloc_contig_range() about MIGRATE_METADATA Alexandru Elisei
2023-08-23 13:13 ` [PATCH RFC 25/37] arm64: mte: Manage tag storage on page allocation Alexandru Elisei
2023-08-23 13:13 ` [PATCH RFC 26/37] arm64: mte: Perform CMOs for tag blocks on tagged page allocation/free Alexandru Elisei
2023-08-23 13:13 ` [PATCH RFC 27/37] arm64: mte: Reserve tag block for the zero page Alexandru Elisei
2023-08-23 13:13 ` [PATCH RFC 28/37] mm: sched: Introduce PF_MEMALLOC_ISOLATE Alexandru Elisei
2023-08-23 13:13 ` [PATCH RFC 29/37] mm: arm64: Define the PAGE_METADATA_NONE page protection Alexandru Elisei
2023-08-23 13:13 ` [PATCH RFC 30/37] mm: mprotect: arm64: Set PAGE_METADATA_NONE for mprotect(PROT_MTE) Alexandru Elisei
2023-08-23 13:13 ` [PATCH RFC 31/37] mm: arm64: Set PAGE_METADATA_NONE in set_pte_at() if missing metadata storage Alexandru Elisei
2023-08-23 13:13 ` [PATCH RFC 32/37] mm: Call arch_swap_prepare_to_restore() before arch_swap_restore() Alexandru Elisei
2023-08-23 13:13 ` [PATCH RFC 33/37] arm64: mte: swap/copypage: Handle tag restoring when missing tag storage Alexandru Elisei
2023-08-23 13:13 ` [PATCH RFC 34/37] arm64: mte: Handle fatal signal in reserve_metadata_storage() Alexandru Elisei
2023-08-23 13:13 ` [PATCH RFC 35/37] mm: hugepage: Handle PAGE_METADATA_NONE faults for huge pages Alexandru Elisei
2023-08-23 13:13 ` [PATCH RFC 36/37] KVM: arm64: Disable MTE is tag storage is enabled Alexandru Elisei
2023-08-23 13:13 ` [PATCH RFC 37/37] arm64: mte: Enable tag storage management Alexandru Elisei
2023-08-24  7:50 ` [PATCH RFC 00/37] Add support for arm64 MTE dynamic tag storage reuse David Hildenbrand
2023-08-24 10:44   ` Catalin Marinas
2023-08-24 11:06     ` David Hildenbrand
2023-08-24 11:25       ` David Hildenbrand
2023-08-24 15:24         ` Catalin Marinas
2023-09-06 11:23           ` Alexandru Elisei
2023-09-11 11:52             ` Catalin Marinas
2023-09-11 12:29               ` David Hildenbrand
2023-09-13 15:29                 ` Catalin Marinas
     [not found]                   ` <CGME20231025031004epcas2p485a0b7a9247bc61d54064d7f7bdd1e89@epcas2p4.samsung.com>
2023-10-25  2:59                     ` Hyesoo Yu
2023-10-25  8:47                       ` Alexandru Elisei
2023-10-25  8:52                         ` Hyesoo Yu
2023-10-27 11:04                           ` Catalin Marinas
2023-09-13  8:11 ` Kuan-Ying Lee (李冠穎)
2023-09-14 17:37   ` Catalin Marinas

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