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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
To: Yosry Ahmed <yosryahmed@google.com>
Cc: "Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Shakeel Butt" <shakeelb@google.com>,
	"Johannes Weiner" <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	"Roman Gushchin" <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>,
	"Muchun Song" <muchun.song@linux.dev>,
	"Michal Koutný" <mkoutny@suse.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, cgroups@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/2] mm: memcg: fix tracking of pending stats updates values
Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2023 09:57:31 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZRvJa1Hza1RS28+G@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJD7tkbWz7mx6mUrvFQHP10ncqL-iVwD4ymHTm=oXW5qGgrZtA@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon 25-09-23 10:11:05, Yosry Ahmed wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 25, 2023 at 6:50 AM Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Fri 22-09-23 17:57:38, Yosry Ahmed wrote:
> > > While working on adjacent code [1], I realized that the values passed
> > > into memcg_rstat_updated() to keep track of the magnitude of pending
> > > updates is consistent. It is mostly in pages, but sometimes it can be in
> > > bytes or KBs. Fix that.
> >
> > What kind of practical difference does this change make? Is it worth
> > additional code?
> 
> As explained in patch 2's commit message, the value passed into
> memcg_rstat_updated() is used for the "flush only if not worth it"
> heuristic. As we have discussed in different threads in the past few
> weeks, unnecessary flushes can cause increased global lock contention
> and/or latency.
> 
> Byte-sized paths (percpu, slab, zswap, ..) feed bytes into the
> heuristic, but those are interpreted as pages, which means we will
> flush earlier than we should. This was noticed by code inspection. How
> much does this matter in practice? I would say it depends on the
> workload: how many percpu/slab allocations are being made vs. how many
> flushes are requested.
> 
> On a system with 100 cpus, 25M of stat updates are needed for a flush
> usually, but ~6K of slab/percpu updates will also (mistakenly) cause a
> flush.

This surely depends on workload and that is understandable. But it would
be really nice to provide some numbers for typical workloads which
exercise slab heavily. 
-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs


  reply	other threads:[~2023-10-03  7:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-09-22 17:57 Yosry Ahmed
2023-09-22 17:57 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] mm: memcg: refactor page state unit helpers Yosry Ahmed
2023-10-03 13:03   ` Johannes Weiner
2023-10-03 18:11   ` Michal Koutný
2023-10-03 19:47     ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-10-04  9:02       ` Michal Koutný
2023-10-04 16:58         ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-10-04 18:36         ` Johannes Weiner
2023-10-05  9:06           ` Michal Koutný
2023-10-05  9:31             ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-10-05 16:30               ` Michal Koutný
2023-10-05 17:30                 ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-10-18 19:27                   ` Andrew Morton
2023-09-22 17:57 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] mm: memcg: normalize the value passed into memcg_rstat_updated() Yosry Ahmed
2023-10-03 13:13   ` Johannes Weiner
2023-10-03 15:53     ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-10-03 18:22   ` Michal Koutný
2023-10-03 19:51     ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-09-25 13:50 ` [PATCH v2 0/2] mm: memcg: fix tracking of pending stats updates values Michal Hocko
2023-09-25 17:11   ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-10-03  7:57     ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2023-10-03  8:03       ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-10-03  8:09         ` Michal Hocko
2023-10-03  8:49           ` Yosry Ahmed

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