From: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
Chandan Babu R <chandan.babu@oracle.com>,
"Darrick J . Wong" <djwong@kernel.org>,
linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/5] locking: Add rwsem_is_write_locked()
Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2023 20:20:30 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZPoift7B3UDQgmWB@casper.infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230907190810.GA14243@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net>
On Thu, Sep 07, 2023 at 09:08:10PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 07, 2023 at 06:47:01PM +0100, Matthew Wilcox (Oracle) wrote:
> > Several places want to know whether the lock is held by a writer, instead
> > of just whether it's held. We can implement this for both normal and
> > rt rwsems. RWSEM_WRITER_LOCKED is declared in rwsem.c and exposing
> > it outside that file might tempt other people to use it, so just use
> > a comment to note that's what the 1 means, and help anybody find it if
> > they're looking to change the implementation.
>
> I'm presuming this is deep in a callchain where they know they hold the
> lock, but they lost in what capacity?
No, it's just assertions. You can see that in patch 3 where it's
used in functions called things like "xfs_islocked".
> In general I strongly dislike the whole _is_locked family, because it
> gives very poorly defined semantics if used by anybody but the owner.
>
> If these new functions are indeed to be used only by lock holders to
> determine what kind of lock they hold, could we please put:
>
> lockdep_assert_held()
>
> in them?
Patch 2 shows it in use in the MM code. We already have a
lockdep_assert_held_write(), but most people don't enable lockdep, so
we also have VM_BUG_ON_MM(!rwsem_is_write_locked(&mm->mmap_lock), mm)
to give us a good assertion when lockdep is disabled.
XFS has a problem with using lockdep in general, which is that a worker
thread can be spawned and use the fact that the spawner is holding the
lock. There's no mechanism for the worker thread to ask "Does struct
task_struct *p hold the lock?".
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-09-07 19:20 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-09-07 17:47 [PATCH 0/5] Remove the XFS mrlock Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2023-09-07 17:47 ` [PATCH 1/5] locking: Add rwsem_is_write_locked() Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2023-09-07 18:05 ` Waiman Long
2023-09-07 19:33 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-09-07 21:06 ` Waiman Long
2023-09-07 23:47 ` Waiman Long
2023-09-08 0:44 ` Dave Chinner
2023-09-07 19:08 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-09-07 19:20 ` Matthew Wilcox [this message]
2023-09-07 19:38 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-09-07 23:00 ` Dave Chinner
2023-09-08 10:44 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-09-10 22:56 ` Dave Chinner
2023-09-10 23:17 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-09-11 0:55 ` Dave Chinner
2023-09-11 2:15 ` Waiman Long
2023-09-11 22:29 ` Dave Chinner
2023-09-12 9:03 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-09-12 12:28 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-09-12 13:52 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-09-12 13:58 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-09-12 14:23 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-09-12 15:27 ` Darrick J. Wong
2023-09-13 8:59 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-09-12 14:02 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-09-12 23:16 ` Dave Chinner
2023-09-08 0:01 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-09-07 17:47 ` [PATCH 2/5] mm: Use rwsem_is_write_locked in mmap_assert_write_locked Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2023-09-07 17:47 ` [PATCH 3/5] xfs: Use rwsem_is_write_locked() Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2023-09-08 9:09 ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-09-08 9:10 ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-09-07 17:47 ` [PATCH 4/5] xfs: Remove mrlock wrapper Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2023-09-07 17:47 ` [PATCH 5/5] xfs: Stop using lockdep to assert that locks are held Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
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