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From: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
To: Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 01/14] mm: Make folios_put() the basis of release_pages()
Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2023 04:58:26 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZPFhYjvuB59rziNw@casper.infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3321aaff-1822-4421-8280-73a9d890a1f6@arm.com>

On Thu, Aug 31, 2023 at 03:21:53PM +0100, Ryan Roberts wrote:
> On 25/08/2023 14:59, Matthew Wilcox (Oracle) wrote:
> > By making release_pages() call folios_put(), we can get rid of the calls
> > to compound_head() for the callers that already know they have folios.
> > We can also get rid of the lock_batch tracking as we know the size of
> > the batch is limited by folio_batch.
> > -		/*
> > -		 * Make sure the IRQ-safe lock-holding time does not get
> > -		 * excessive with a continuous string of pages from the
> > -		 * same lruvec. The lock is held only if lruvec != NULL.
> > -		 */
> > -		if (lruvec && ++lock_batch == SWAP_CLUSTER_MAX) {
> 
> SWAP_CLUSTER_MAX is 32. By using the folio_batch, I think you are limitted to 15
> in your batch, so I guess you could be taking/releasing the lock x2 as often? Is
> there any perf implication?

Yes, if the batch size is larger than 15, we'll take/release the lru lock
more often.  We could increase the size of the folio_batch if that becomes
a problem.  I'm not sure how often it's a problem; we already limit the
number of folios to process to 15 in, eg, folio_batch_add_and_move().
I'm not really sure why this code gets to be special and hold the lock
for twice as long as the callers of folio_batch_add_and_move.

> > @@ -1040,6 +1020,40 @@ void release_pages(release_pages_arg arg, int nr)
> >  
> >  	mem_cgroup_uncharge_list(&pages_to_free);
> >  	free_unref_page_list(&pages_to_free);
> > +	folios->nr = 0;
> 
> folio_batch_reinit(folios) ?

I don't really like the abstraction here.  Back to folio_batch_move_lru()
as an example:

        for (i = 0; i < folio_batch_count(fbatch); i++) {
                struct folio *folio = fbatch->folios[i];
...
	}
...
	folio_batch_reinit(fbatch);

vs what I'd rather write:

	for (i = 0; i < fbatch->nr; i++) {
		struct folio *folio = fbatch->folios[i];
...
	}
...
	fbatch->nr = 0;

OK, we've successfully abstracted away that there is a member of
folio_batch called 'nr', but we still have to go poking around inside
folio_batch to extract the folio itself.  So it's not like we've
managed to make folio_batch a completely opaque type.  And I don't
think that folio_batch_count() is really all that much more descriptive
than fbatch->nr.  Indeed, I think the second one is easier to read;
it's obviously a plain loop.

I suppose that folio_batch_count() / _reinit() are easier to grep for
than '>nr\>' but I don't think that's a particularly useful thing to do.
We could add abstractions to get the folio_batch_folio(fbatch, i), but
when we start to get into something like folio_batch_remove_exceptionals()
(and there's something similar happening in this patchset where we strip
out the hugetlb folios), you're messing with the internal structure of
the folio_batch so much that you may as well not bother with any kind
of abstraction.

I'm really temped to rip out folio_batch_count() and folio_batch_reinit().
They don't seem useful enough.



  reply	other threads:[~2023-09-01  3:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-08-25 13:59 [RFC PATCH 00/14] Rearrange batched folio freeing Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2023-08-25 13:59 ` [RFC PATCH 01/14] mm: Make folios_put() the basis of release_pages() Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2023-08-31 14:21   ` Ryan Roberts
2023-09-01  3:58     ` Matthew Wilcox [this message]
2023-09-01  8:14       ` Ryan Roberts
2023-08-25 13:59 ` [RFC PATCH 02/14] mm: Convert free_unref_page_list() to use folios Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2023-08-31 14:29   ` Ryan Roberts
2023-09-01  4:03     ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-09-01  8:15       ` Ryan Roberts
2023-08-25 13:59 ` [RFC PATCH 03/14] mm: Add free_unref_folios() Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2023-08-31 14:39   ` Ryan Roberts
2023-08-25 13:59 ` [RFC PATCH 04/14] mm: Use folios_put() in __folio_batch_release() Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2023-08-31 14:41   ` Ryan Roberts
2023-08-25 13:59 ` [RFC PATCH 05/14] memcg: Add mem_cgroup_uncharge_folios() Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2023-08-31 14:49   ` Ryan Roberts
2023-08-25 13:59 ` [RFC PATCH 06/14] mm: Remove use of folio list from folios_put() Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2023-08-31 14:53   ` Ryan Roberts
2023-08-25 13:59 ` [RFC PATCH 07/14] mm: Use free_unref_folios() in put_pages_list() Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2023-08-25 13:59 ` [RFC PATCH 08/14] mm: use __page_cache_release() in folios_put() Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2023-08-25 13:59 ` [RFC PATCH 09/14] mm: Handle large folios in free_unref_folios() Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2023-08-31 15:21   ` Ryan Roberts
2023-09-01  4:09     ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-08-25 13:59 ` [RFC PATCH 10/14] mm: Allow non-hugetlb large folios to be batch processed Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2023-08-31 15:28   ` Ryan Roberts
2023-09-01  4:10     ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-08-25 13:59 ` [RFC PATCH 11/14] mm: Free folios in a batch in shrink_folio_list() Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2023-09-04  3:43   ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-01-05 17:00     ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-08-25 13:59 ` [RFC PATCH 12/14] mm: Free folios directly in move_folios_to_lru() Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2023-08-31 15:46   ` Ryan Roberts
2023-09-01  4:16     ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-08-25 13:59 ` [RFC PATCH 13/14] memcg: Remove mem_cgroup_uncharge_list() Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2023-08-31 18:26   ` Ryan Roberts
2023-08-25 13:59 ` [RFC PATCH 14/14] mm: Remove free_unref_page_list() Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2023-08-31 18:27   ` Ryan Roberts
2023-08-30 18:50 ` [RFC PATCH 15/18] mm: Convert free_pages_and_swap_cache() to use folios_put() Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2023-08-30 18:50 ` [RFC PATCH 16/18] mm: Use a folio in __collapse_huge_page_copy_succeeded() Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2023-08-30 18:50 ` [RFC PATCH 17/18] mm: Convert free_swap_cache() to take a folio Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2023-08-31 18:49   ` Ryan Roberts
2023-08-30 18:50 ` [RFC PATCH 18/18] mm: Add pfn_range_put() Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2023-08-31 19:03   ` Ryan Roberts
2023-09-01  4:27     ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-09-01  7:59       ` Ryan Roberts
2023-09-04 13:25 ` [RFC PATCH 00/14] Rearrange batched folio freeing Ryan Roberts
2023-09-05 13:15   ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-09-05 13:26     ` Ryan Roberts
2023-09-05 14:00       ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-09-06  3:48         ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-09-06 10:23           ` Ryan Roberts

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