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From: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
To: Yosry Ahmed <yosryahmed@google.com>
Cc: Ivan Babrou <ivan@cloudflare.com>,
	Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com>,
	Shakeel Butt <shakeelb@google.com>,
	cgroups@vger.kernel.org, Linux MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	kernel-team <kernel-team@cloudflare.com>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
	Roman Gushchin <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>,
	Muchun Song <muchun.song@linux.dev>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Expensive memory.stat + cpu.stat reads
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2023 14:18:31 -1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZNrEV1qEcQMUgztn@slm.duckdns.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJD7tkb=dUfc=L+61noQYHymHPUHswm_XUyFvRdaZemo80qUdQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,

On Fri, Aug 11, 2023 at 05:01:08PM -0700, Yosry Ahmed wrote:
> There have been a lot of problems coming from this global rstat lock:
> hard lockups (when we used to flush atomically), unified flushing
> being expensive, skipping flushing being inaccurate, etc.
> 
> I wonder if it's time to rethink this lock and break it down into
> granular locks. Perhaps a per-cgroup lock, and develop a locking
> scheme where you always lock a parent then a child, then flush the
> child and unlock it and move to the next child, etc. This will allow
> concurrent flushing of non-root cgroups. Even when flushing the root,
> if we flush all its children first without locking the root, then only
> lock the root when flushing the top-level children, then some level of
> concurrency can be achieved.
> 
> Maybe this is too complicated, I never tried to implement it, but I
> have been bouncing around this idea in my head for a while now.
> 
> We can also split the update tree per controller. As far as I can tell
> there is no reason to flush cpu stats for example when someone wants
> to read memory stats.

There's another thread. Let's continue there but I'm a bit skeptical whether
splitting the lock is a good solution here. Regardless of locking, we don't
want to run in an atomic context for that long anwyay.

Thanks.

-- 
tejun


  reply	other threads:[~2023-08-15  0:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-06-30 23:22 Ivan Babrou
2023-07-06  6:20 ` Shakeel Butt
2023-07-10 23:21   ` Ivan Babrou
2023-07-11  0:44     ` Waiman Long
2023-07-13 23:25       ` Ivan Babrou
2023-07-14 17:23         ` Waiman Long
2023-07-15  0:00           ` Ivan Babrou
2023-07-15  0:30         ` Ivan Babrou
2023-08-11 22:03           ` Ivan Babrou
2023-08-11 22:27             ` Waiman Long
2023-08-11 22:35               ` Ivan Babrou
2023-08-12  2:33                 ` Shakeel Butt
2023-08-14 17:56                   ` Ivan Babrou
2023-08-11 23:43             ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-08-12  0:01               ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-08-15  0:18                 ` Tejun Heo [this message]
2023-08-15  0:30                   ` Ivan Babrou
2023-08-15  0:31                     ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-07-15  0:14     ` Ivan Babrou
2023-07-10 14:44 ` Michal Koutný
2023-07-10 23:23   ` Ivan Babrou

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