From: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
To: Zach O'Keefe <zokeefe@google.com>
Cc: Saurabh Singh Sengar <ssengar@microsoft.com>,
Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
Yang Shi <shy828301@gmail.com>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] [PATCH] mm/thp: fix "mm: thp: kill __transhuge_page_enabled()"
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2023 13:18:28 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZN4QFNZlx8mK9pQm@casper.infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAAa6QmTA8aADSYbpxXU8kne0KqyeY7fCw5_QYSj0T7bCtPKmfA@mail.gmail.com>
On Wed, Aug 16, 2023 at 02:31:06PM -0700, Zach O'Keefe wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 14, 2023 at 7:24 PM Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org> wrote:
> > So if we find a large folio that is PMD mappable, and there's nothing
> > at vmf->pmd, we install a PMD-sized mapping at that spot. If that
> > fails, we install the preallocated PTE table at vmf->pmd and continue to
> > trying set one or more PTEs to satisfy this page fault.
>
> Aha! I see. I did not expect ->fault() to have this logic, as I had
> incorrectly thought (aka assumed) the pmd vs pte-mapping logic split
> at create_huge_pmd(); i.e. do_huge_pmd_anonymous_page(), or
> ->huge_fault(), or fallback to pte-mapping. It seems very weird to me
> that hugepage_vma_check() "artificially" says "no" to file and shmem
> along the fault path, so they can go and do their own thing in
> ->fault().
Wow, hugepage_vma_check() is a very complicated function. I'm glad I
ignored it!
> IIUC then, there is a bug in smaps THPeligible code when
> CONFIG_READ_ONLY_THP_FOR_FS is not set. Not obvious, but apparently
> this config is (according to it's Kconfig desc) khugepaged-only, so it
> should be fine for it to be disabled, yet allow
> do_sync_mmap_readahead() to install a pmd for file-backed memory.
> hugepage_vma_check() will need to be patched to fix this.
I guess so ...
> But I have a larger question for you: should we care about
> /sys/kernel/mm/transparent_hugepage/enabled for file-fault? We
> currently don't. Seems weird that we can transparently get a hugepage
> when THP="never". Also, if THP="always", we might as well skip the
> VM_HUGEPAGE check, and try the final pmd install (and save khugepaged
> the trouble of attempting it later).
I deliberately ignored the humungous complexity of the THP options.
They're overgrown and make my brain hurt. Instead, large folios are
adaptive; they observe the behaviour of the user program and choose based
on history what to do. This is far superior to having a sysadmin tell
us what to do!
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-08-17 12:18 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-08-12 21:00 Zach O'Keefe
2023-08-12 21:24 ` Zach O'Keefe
2023-08-13 6:19 ` [EXTERNAL] " Saurabh Singh Sengar
2023-08-14 18:47 ` Zach O'Keefe
2023-08-14 19:06 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-08-15 0:04 ` Zach O'Keefe
2023-08-15 2:24 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-08-16 16:52 ` Saurabh Singh Sengar
2023-08-16 21:47 ` Zach O'Keefe
2023-08-17 17:46 ` Yang Shi
2023-08-17 18:29 ` Zach O'Keefe
2023-08-18 21:21 ` Yang Shi
2023-08-21 15:08 ` Zach O'Keefe
2023-08-21 22:59 ` Yang Shi
2023-08-16 21:31 ` Zach O'Keefe
2023-08-17 12:18 ` Matthew Wilcox [this message]
2023-08-17 18:13 ` Zach O'Keefe
2023-08-17 19:01 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-08-17 21:12 ` Zach O'Keefe
2023-08-16 16:49 ` Saurabh Singh Sengar
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