From: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
liubo <liubo254@huawei.com>, Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>, Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>,
John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 0/4] smaps / mm/gup: fix gup_can_follow_protnone fallout
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2023 14:51:27 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZMgCr4TxgNQZhhQK@x1n> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHk-=wiREarX5MQx9AppxPzV6jXCCQRs5KVKgHoGYwATRL6nPg@mail.gmail.com>
On Mon, Jul 31, 2023 at 11:23:59AM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> So GUP-fast can only look at the page table data, and as such *has* to
> fail if the page table is inaccessible.
>
> But GUP in general? Why would it want to honor numa faulting?
> Particularly by default, and _particularly_ for things like
> FOLL_REMOTE.
True.
>
> In fact, I feel like this is what the real rule should be: we simply
> define that get_user_pages_fast() is about looking up the page in the
> page tables.
>
> So if you want something that acts like a page table lookup, you use
> that "fast" thing. It's literally how it is designed. The whole - and
> pretty much only - point of it is that it can be used with no locking
> at all, because it basically acts like the hardware lookup does.
Unfortunately I think at least kvm (besides the rest..) relies not only on
numa balancing but also fast-gup.. :-( Please refer to hva_to_pfn() where
it even supports fast-gup-only HVA translation when atomic==true set.
Thanks,
--
Peter Xu
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-07-31 18:51 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-07-27 21:28 David Hildenbrand
2023-07-27 21:28 ` [PATCH v1 2/4] mm/gup: Make follow_page() succeed again on PROT_NONE PTEs/PMDs David Hildenbrand
2023-07-28 2:30 ` John Hubbard
2023-07-28 9:08 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-07-28 10:12 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-07-27 21:28 ` [PATCH v1 3/4] smaps: use vm_normal_page_pmd() instead of follow_trans_huge_pmd() David Hildenbrand
2023-07-27 21:28 ` [PATCH v1 4/4] mm/gup: document FOLL_FORCE behavior David Hildenbrand
2023-07-28 16:18 ` [PATCH v1 0/4] smaps / mm/gup: fix gup_can_follow_protnone fallout Linus Torvalds
2023-07-28 17:30 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-07-28 17:54 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-07-28 19:40 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-07-28 19:50 ` Peter Xu
2023-07-28 20:00 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-08-02 10:24 ` Mel Gorman
2023-07-28 19:39 ` Peter Xu
2023-07-28 19:52 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-07-28 20:23 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-07-28 20:33 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-07-28 20:50 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-07-28 21:02 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-07-28 21:20 ` Peter Xu
2023-07-28 21:31 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-07-28 22:14 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-07-31 16:01 ` Peter Xu
2023-07-28 21:32 ` John Hubbard
2023-07-28 21:49 ` Peter Xu
2023-07-28 22:00 ` John Hubbard
2023-07-31 16:05 ` Peter Xu
[not found] ` <412bb30f-0417-802c-3fc4-a4e9d5891c5d@redhat.com>
2023-07-29 9:35 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-07-31 16:10 ` Peter Xu
2023-07-31 16:20 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-07-31 18:23 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-07-31 18:51 ` Peter Xu [this message]
2023-07-31 19:00 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-07-31 19:07 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-07-31 19:22 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-08-01 13:05 ` Jason Gunthorpe
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