From: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
To: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
Cc: Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 2/2] mm: disable CONFIG_PER_VMA_LOCK until its fixed
Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2023 17:55:47 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZKXm41CPurR20wYr@x1n> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZKXgXFfrBzUjfkDN@casper.infradead.org>
On Wed, Jul 05, 2023 at 10:27:56PM +0100, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 05, 2023 at 04:25:21PM -0400, Peter Xu wrote:
> > There'll still try to be a final fix, am I right? As IIRC allowing page
> > faults during fork() is one of the major goals of vma lock.
>
> Good grief, no. Why would we want to optimise something that happens
> so rarely? The goal is, as usual, more performance. Satisfying page
> faults while mmap()/munmap()/mprotect() are happening is worthwhile.
> Those happen a lot more than fork().
>
> In this case though, there's also a priority-inversion problem that
> we're trying to solve where process A (high priority) calls mmap() while
> process B (low priority) is reading /proc/$pid/smaps and now (because
> rwsems are fair), none of process A's other threads can satisy any page
> faults until process B is scheduled.
Is it possible to extend vma lock to things like smaps?
>
> Where on earth did you get the idea that we cared even a little bit
> about the performance of page fault during fork()?
My memory, when I was talking to someone during the conference that
mentioned such a use case. But my memory can be just wrong, in that case
it's my fault, but I hope it's still fine to just ask here.
--
Peter Xu
prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-07-05 21:55 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-07-05 17:12 [PATCH v3 0/2] Avoid memory corruption caused by per-VMA locks Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-07-05 17:12 ` [PATCH v3 1/2] fork: lock VMAs of the parent process when forking Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-07-05 17:14 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-07-05 17:23 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-07-05 23:06 ` Liam R. Howlett
2023-07-06 0:20 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-07-06 0:32 ` Liam R. Howlett
2023-07-06 0:42 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-07-05 17:12 ` [PATCH v3 2/2] mm: disable CONFIG_PER_VMA_LOCK until its fixed Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-07-05 17:15 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-07-05 17:22 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-07-05 17:24 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-07-05 18:09 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-07-05 18:14 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-07-05 20:25 ` Peter Xu
2023-07-05 20:33 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-07-06 0:24 ` Andrew Morton
2023-07-06 0:30 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-07-06 0:32 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-07-06 0:44 ` Andrew Morton
2023-07-06 0:49 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-07-06 1:16 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-07-05 20:37 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-07-05 21:09 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-07-05 21:27 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-07-05 21:54 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-07-05 21:55 ` Peter Xu [this message]
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